270 win. Vs 30-06

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by thelightning15, Sep 20, 2011.

  1. thelightning15

    thelightning15 New Member

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    Which kicks harder 270 or 30-06
     
  2. powg

    powg New Member

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    recoil ?

    The recoil question can only be evaluated with more info ....such as what type of gun...some single shot pistols are availiable in various ''rifle'' calibers,as with weapon weight ,action type , bullet weights etc but as a base line most popular vs most popular .270 in 130 grn will kick less than .30-06 150 grn in same weight rifle .....most typical being a bolt action .The .270 is a 30-06 family member necked down to .27 caliber ....as is the .280 . Auto loaders kick less ...as do heavier rifles . Stock construction is a factor also, straight grained hardwood (maple) with a straighter grip transfer recoil worse than a deep grip monte carlo syle walnut .I like synthentics because of durability ....As a side note Im not that recoil sensitive,but the king of kicking that Ive shot was a older remington 788 bolt action maple stock .30-06 with 180 grain ....I remember it well .:D
     

  3. ninjatoth

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    In the same model gun with the same weight bullet-lets say 150 gr,it's gonna be about the same,but definitly a 130 grain .270 round will be a little lighter kickin than a 180gr 30-06.
     
  4. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the bullet & charge, but really, what`s the difference same case just different caliber bullet !
     
  5. bigedp51

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  6. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    By the recoil table looks damn near the same to me.
     
  7. a7mmnut

    a7mmnut New Member

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    I'll bet they didn't test the original Ruger Stainless rifles. That's the darnedest-kicking .270 I've ever "not owned anymore". My 7 mags. were easier to shoot than that witch.

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  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    gun type, weight, stock material will all make a difference in felt recoil. i have had 270's that felt like the kick harder than the 30-06's i owned. i have a remington M700 in 7mm rem. mag. that kicks the living crap out of my shoulder with factory ammo, but i can shoot it all day long with my reloads and the same bullet weights. powder can make a big difference in the felt recoil too.
     
  9. natman

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    All else being equal, the 270 will kick slightly less, shoot a little flatter and not hit quite as hard.

    Despite all the perfectly good ink and electrons wasted debating the two cartridges, they are the same case with slightly different bullet diameters. They are therefore quite similar in performance.
     
  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    yes the ballistics are close, but the 30-06 does have a slight edge in velocity and energy. but the 30-06 really comes ahead because it is the parent cartridge of the 270 and there is twice the load data and components for reloading the 30-06. don't get me wrong, because as of this time i don't have a 270, but plan on adding another to the collection soon. i have owned several 270's in the past along with many 30-06's, which one is best? really cant say, if i walked in blindfolded and had to pick between one or the other to hunt with, i would feel confident with either one, because both are excellent cartridges.
     
  11. marklonewolf

    marklonewolf New Member

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    My father in-law has a Weatherby Vanguard 270 wsm and I have a savage 30-06 since I move here he put on a recoill but stock on it and we sighted both in at the same time even with the recoil but stock I would have to say the 270 kicks more.
     
  12. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i'm not sure but i think the ballistics are somewhat different on the short mag 270's. it's a totally different case than the 270 winchester round. i've only shot one 270 wsm, and only shot it about five rounds, so i can't really offer a comparison personally.
     
  13. skeniger2002

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    The short mag would kick harder than the 06 because it uses more powder
     
  14. Pasquanel

    Pasquanel Proud to be an American Supporter

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    There is recoil and then there is perceived recoil two different things. Perceived recoil is more a matter of stock design than actual physics.
    Fire two identical rounds in different rifles and the perceived recoil will be different its a matter of the weight of the arm and how much drop the stock has.
    The straighter stocks as found on many if not most big bores allow the recoil to be straight back where a stock with a lot of drop will recoil back and up at the same time.
     
  15. 75370

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    Thanks, +1
     
  16. Pasquanel

    Pasquanel Proud to be an American Supporter

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    Actually if you were to load two different weight bullets using the same powder the lighter bullet requires more more propellant to achieve optimum velocity.
    A 180 gr. 30/06 loaded with IMR 4064 might fill the case 5/8 to 3/4 capacity while a 125 gr. will actually be a compressed load completely filling the case.
    Recoil is a by product of bullet weight and the velocity you are driving it at and not the amount of propellant used. Its that equal and opposite reaction thing.