.270 .308 or 30-06

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Papa_Woody, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. Papa_Woody

    Papa_Woody New Member

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    Going to replace a savage I traded a few years ago and trying to decide on a caliber.

    I had it in .270 and loved it. But that was when I was shooting just whitetail.
    Now I am traveling more and would like to get the most for a cartridge. Bear mule coyote and whitetail are on my list next year.

    If you could have just one caliber, for N. America which would it be? I loved the .270 and so that is kind of where I am leaning to. But I only shot whitetail with it. I'd like to be able to have one caliber with the best selection of ammo.

    (I'm not worried about the damage done to a coyote cause i shoot them strictly for pest control and I like picking off woodchucks too)

    In your opinion(s) please...
     
  2. 762

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    i'd pic a .308, but bears in NC are pretty small. if i were going to use it anywhere in N america, to pick off a wide range of animals, .30-06 for sure. not too bad on recoil and enough power to kill most anything.

    i'd get a rifle with a medium weighted barrel and muzzle break and you'd be fine. i like a heavy rifle though.
     

  3. Papa_Woody

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    Yeah I'm not really looking to take down a Kodiak or a Polar bear... I'd just like to have one gun I can take everywhere and be comfortable and confident.

    So the .270 is off your list completely?
     
  4. Lindenwood

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  5. Papa_Woody

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    Great! I guess it will just comedown to what I decide when I get to the gun store. I'm trying to keep it around the 350 price range so we will see. I'm still really torn...
     
  6. 762

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    i see, no it isnt off completely. i've shot them before, but never killed anything with one. i was thinking you would be trying to kill moose or grizzly bears, in which case i'd want a .30-06 (and really, probably a .300 or .338) i think shooting a 10 foot tall grizzly with a .270 would just make him want to eat me even more.

    i just think with any gun, as long as you've confident with it, you can make it work. if you're scared of the recoil and you flinching before the shot or you're trigger pull is off, you're never going to be accurate with it. you can take a .50 cal hunting, but you dont hit the animal, it doesnt matter what you shoot. the opposite also applies though, if you know how to use a smaller caliber, you can take a large amount of game.

    i'm biased though, i hunt with a remington 700P - .308. very accurate gun, i'm confident i could humanely kill a deer out to 500 yards with it. i wont b/c i find it unpsorting, but if i absolutely had to i could.
     
  7. Triumphman

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    You picked 3 of N. America's top 3 calibers and you want us Forum members to choose for you----we're honored. Seriously, nothing compares to the OLD RELIABLE 30-06. I like 308 and 270, but the 30-06 is more versatile for any occasion that arises, and you'll NEVER feel undergunned. Every Mom/Pop store from Maine to California carries ammo for it. If you reload, you can go from a mild 150gr for groundhogs(a little overkill, but!!) to heavy 220gr and even kill a 2000+ pound Bison at 400yds if you wanted to. They've used 30-06 in Africa for all game. The 30-06 has been used around the World for years. There's a wealth of reload and factory bullet drop charts and other info on this round, that you'll spend months looking them over. Yes it has a little more kick over the 308 and 270, but with a heavier bullet, you'll get more kick, because of the extra powder needed to throw a heavier bullet. Every rifle Manufacturer builds a 30-06 in different prices and models for your choosing from a $250 single shot NEF all way up to $15,000 Weatherby Customs. All rifles in this caliber are good, it'll just be the selection of rifle choosen and what receiver/bolt action and safety options you want that'll require days to pour over before final pick of rifle. I have a Mossberg ATR100 in 30-06 and it's been great, but if I had to do it all over again, it would of been a Savage, because of the better trigger.
    Del
     
  8. jpattersonnh

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    Africa was a European continent, not .30-06 land. 7x57, 8x57, 9.3x62, .416 Rigby ruled for years. I think even T.R. used a .30-40 Krag.

    A heavier bullet uses less powder. It is about case volume and pressure. More powder would increase pressure to the point it would be a catastophic failure.



    OP a .30-06 will work fine.
     
  9. stalkingbear

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    Before we recommend which cartridge you need we're going to have to have more information. What ranges are you going to be shooting at? What terrain? Nothern states or southern (the size of deer/bear varies drastically). How well do you cope with recoil? If I could only have 1 rifle to hunt in North America it would be a 30-06 hands down. But you may have need of the slightly flatter trajectory & less recoil of the .270. That's why we need more information.
     
  10. JTJ

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    .270 works very well on elk.
     
  11. poncaguy

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    270 WSM!...........or the 300 WSM..after that....30-06
     
  12. Papa_Woody

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    Thank you very much for your input. Actually k am going to but a savage. I loved it. If I could go back I would not give it up again. So I am going to replace it. I think 30-06 is going to be my direction. Versatility is what I am after and 'kick' has never been an issue for me. Unless I change my mind, again.
     
  13. Papa_Woody

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    I will be hunting from New Mexico to N. Idaho and as far east as PA for certain but I travel a lot and have access to many areas in the lower 48 and some in Canada.

    My biggest use will be coyotes but like I said it's not for the pelt it's for the sake of keeping them out of my stock. So if I can get one at 500 plus that would be ideal and if I could get one at 800 I would be very happy. I'm not Hunting them, I am defeating them. I'd order airstrikes if I could....

    anything smaller than .270 defeats the versatility aspect. As would bigger than 30-06.

    I like flat trajectory, I like knockdown.
     
  14. Lindenwood

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    And just to clarify, you do already have a .270, right?
     
  15. Papa_Woody

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    Negative. Traded a Savage in .270 a few years back for an Ithaca 12ga. I was living in NYState at the time with no real use for a rifle. So now I am trying to replace it. My only rifles are a Mauser (M48A) an Arisaka (99), and an AR.
     
  16. Marthor

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    Just one caliber for N America is why I went with 300 Win Mag on my hunting rifle. You can go from Bear all the way down to deer with it.
     
  17. Papa_Woody

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    Yes, 300 win mag would make the list, however the particular gun I am looking at is only available in .270 .308 and 30-06. No .300 mag.
     
  18. dks7895

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    Ballistically they are really close. The 270 is flatter, the 308 has less recoil and short action. The 30-06 is a long time favorite.

    I prefer the 308.
     
  19. Papa_Woody

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    What is your reasoning? Just curious, your preferences might mirror mine.
     
  20. Shade

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    Really any of them, and actually overkill on the species you mention you
    shoot.

    .30-06 likely has the widest and best stocked ammo of the 3.

    But if you every get into reloading your own, there is no limit at all.

    But also for the species you mention a .243 or .257 cartridge would be good
    choices also.