.250 Savage or .257 Roberts?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by cottontop, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. cottontop

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    I already have a .25-06 in my battery and I would like to add another .25 caliber rifle. I have a nice 96 Mauser action, D&T'd for a scope, bolt handle altered, and wearing a Timney trigger w/ safety. It is just waiting for a barrel and stock. But, I can't seem to decide between the .250 or the .257. Which would you go for and why?
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  2. nchunt101

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    .257 Bob ---no practical experience with the caliber but the 3 people I know who hunt with them say it is a great caliber for white tails in Eastern NC where shots range from 3o yds to 400 (large agri fields). Not much recoil and very accurate and flat shooting.
     

  3. JTJ

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    I believe the 257 Roberts is based on the 7x57 Mauser and would be a perfect fit for the Mauser action.
     
  4. nitestalker

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    The .257 Roberts is a great Ctg. no doubt. However you already own a .25 Caliber that is only a few silly millimeters longer. The little .25 [250-3000] father of the .22-250 would make a fine reduced capacity 1/4 bore varminter. :)
     
  5. Txhillbilly

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    I'm with Nitestalker,You really aren't going to gain anything with the 257 Roberts,that the 25/06 can't already do. The 250-3000 would be an excellent varmint/coyote caliber.
     
  6. locutus

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    I aghree with Nite stalker.

    if you didn't already have the .25-06, the Roberts would be the obvious choice. However, since you do, the little 250 will be a great little fun gun for those applications where a bit less power is appropriate.
     
  7. SRK97

    SRK97 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have a .257 built off of a Mauser action, awesome round for deer and super low recoil.
     
  8. jpattersonnh

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    With a '96 action, I'm not sure a .22-250 would be my 1st choice, but not a bad choice. I'm not sure where you might need a 400 yard varmint rifle in Fla., but you never know. If you want easy, the .257 Roberts is the way to go. No work would be needed on the bolt. Cheap to reload. A .257 Roberts is on my want list. If you want a unique rifle/ round, the 5.6x57 might be worth a look.
    http://www.loaddata.com/members/sea...iberid=38&header=5.6mm Caliber Reloading Data
     
  9. cottontop

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    jpattersonnh,
    I was referring to the .250 Savage, not the .22-250. I think the Roberts or the Savage would be a good build for this rifle. I won't rush into it though. I've got some time to think about it. I haven't been hunting in a couple of years now, so I doubt I will hunt with it. I just like reloading for and shooting various rifles at the local range.
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  10. TLuker

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    I was thinking the same thing. It just seems right to have a Mauser casing in a Mauser rifle. All the calibers listed so far are fine calibers but the .257 Roberts would be the way to go for that action. :)
     
  11. jpattersonnh

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    Cotton, I was responding to the above posts. The one issue, although it should not be huge is the 6.5x55 and 7x57/.257 Roberts are different rim diameters. Although the rim of the 7x57, .30-06 cases are the diameters that the U.S. manufactures use, it is smaller then the original design, leading to sub par accuracy. It is just about the case support when firing. The original 6.5x55 rim is .4803, U.S manufactured cases are .4728.
     
  12. cottontop

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    You are certainly correct, and I do agree with you. When I got this action, it was barreled in 8x57. I don't know if it was originally barreled in 6.5x55 long before it was barreled in 8x57 or not. So, I think the Roberts or Savage case would work. I will have the 'smith check it out first.
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  13. huffmanite

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    Own three 257R rifles built on 91, 95, 98 mauser actions. Nice shooters all. Do enjoy shooting paper with them and certainly wouldn't hesitate using one of them for deer hunting. I've had a desire for a 250 Savage cartridge rifle for awhile now. Went to the Shilein open house/swapfest yesterday in Ennis Tx and came home with a couple of Shilein barrels that were in their bargain bin. One was a 25 cal barrel that will probably go on a 1910/12 Remington Rolling Block rifle in 7x57. Kinda bad chamber in the Rolling Block.

    One thing that may be worth consideration when choosing between a 250 Savage or a 257R is brass availability if you reload. While I presently don't own a 250 Savage, seems like whenever I've checked for availability of its brass from places I normally order from, it was not available. It seems to be a so-called seasonal made brass. Sometimes experience same thing with 257R brass, but always able to find some brand of it, or can use 7x57 brass to resize to 257R.
     
  14. cottontop

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    Brass seems to always be available on gunbroker.
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  15. JTJ

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    I just checked my loading book and it was interesting. The base of the 7x57, 257 Roberts and 250 Savage are the same. What was interesting is the 257 had higher velocities with the lighter bullets but slightly lower velocities with the heavier bullets than the 250.:confused: I have seen a few Savage 99's in 250 and might have to take another look.
     
  16. n_h85

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    If your hand loader than hands down (no offence) there is no reason to own a 25 caliber for a 27 caliber anything those calibers can do a 6 millimeter or 6.5 millimeter can do better..... This is simply because the 25 and the 27 calibers do not have near as big of a bullet selection as the 6mm and the 6.5mm. their BC just isnt high enough to compete... It would be my guess that this is because the 6mm and the 6.5mm are very popular competition and target rounds... Therefore bullet manufacturers crank up their performance!
     
  17. cottontop

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    Yes, I am a handloader and I already have a 6mm Remington, a .243 Win., and a 6.5x55 Swedish (in a custom Mauser). I don't "need" another .25 caliber as I have rifles in cartridges capable of hunting small ground squirrels to the biggest bears. In fact, I don't even hunt anymore. But, I do shoot and I am out at the LGR every Friday morning shooting paper. If I had to shoot the same rifle and same cartridge every week, or even the same 3 or 4 rifles, it would get pretty boring. I am not satisfied with any rifle unless it shoots MOA or less. I am working with 5 different rifles that are fairly new to me trying to find a sub MOA load for each one. So, when these are tweaked, I will persue another .25; either the Savage or the Roberts. How can an old useless retired guy have any more fun than that?
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  18. n_h85

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    Well it is definitely all about the fun!
    As far as those two calibers go the savage based on it dimensions looks to be more inherently accurate plus it has a steeper shoulder so your brass life should be better! Also I would have to do some measuring but it looks like the Roberts may lose powder capacity if you use a long bullets...