25-06 or 22-250?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by jbarnett31, Aug 1, 2013.

  1. jbarnett31

    jbarnett31 New Member

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    I'm thinking about getting a different caliber rifle. I'm looking at either a 25-06 or 22-250. I want it to be accurate at long ranges 500-800 yards and be good for target practice and deer hunting. I don't have any experience with either caliber and would like to hear your thoughts.
     
  2. hairbear1

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    22/250 is too light for deer and a 25/06 will do the job with a good 120gn projectile.

    Your seriously going to try and shoot deer at 500- 800 yds then your a better marksman than most shooters.
    The chance of wounding a deer is greater and a light projectile out of a 25/06 will have lost a lot of it's energy by then.

    You'd be better off trying to stalk in to around 100yds or closer and get a better killing shot and forget all about those magical mall ninja 800 yd kills as they're a lot harder to do than most people's abilities.

    Learn to stalk in read the wind and use camouflage and become a hunter and not a shooter.
     
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  3. txpossum

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    25-06 if hunting deer is intended. 22/250 is a great varmit caliber, but if the target is bigger than a coyote I wouldn't hunt with it.
     
  4. yazul42

    yazul42 Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I would go with the 25-06 myself,, good for deer and hogs and I know a fellow that took a decent elk with one,, he stayed under 200 yards, put a partion through it's lungs and made meat. The ranges you indicate to me would dictate a heavier caliber than noted to buck the wind better and that is an extremely long way to be shooting for me anyways,, perhaps a 7.62 Warbird or other Lazzeroni cartridge,,, that may fit the bill quite nicely,, plus a little unique.
     
  5. Txhillbilly

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    I'd choose the 25/06 all day,over a 22-250. The 22-250 is a great varmint caliber,but almost every one made has a barrel twist rate that only allows you to shoot 55 grain or smaller bullets,you'd have to rebarrel any factory rifle with a faster twist rate to stabilize heavier bullets.
    The 25/06 can shoot bullets from 75 grain up to 120 grain,and do it very accurately. I've shot prairie dogs with mine at over 500 yards.

    The barrel on a 25/06 will heat up quick,so if you plan on shooting it often when out shooting,I'd suggest getting a rifle with a varmint contour barrel. If you get a sporter contour barrel,it will be too hot to shoot after 2-3 quick shots and will need several minutes to cool off before shooting again. Even with my heavy barreled 25/06,I never shoot it more than 4-5 shots without letting the barrel cool down.
     
  6. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    how much shooting experiance do you have shooting rifles at 500-800 yards?

    you do realize that most of us consider hunting at such ranges to be unethical and poor hunting practices as you are more than likely to wound rather than kill anything at those distances with a 25-06.
     
  7. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I am with you on this. 500-800 yards is not hunting.
     
  8. coopertrooper

    coopertrooper New Member

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    25-06 for deer at that range, you can kill a deer with a 22-250 but that's at like 100-200 yards, at 500 yards the 22-250 is good for like prairie dogs
     
  9. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    at 800 yards, with a 120 gr. bullet, the drop will be over 8 feet with a 200 yard zero, and at 500 yards, the energy is just a little over a 1000 ft. lbs., so at 800 yards, it's going to be quite less an more than likely to wound rather than kill.

    i can't see any ethical and responsible hunter shooting at that distance knowing those ballistics.
     
  10. bntyhntr6975

    bntyhntr6975 New Member

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    I wouldnt recommend either for hunting at that range. For target shooting at or up to those ranges, the .25-06 will be alot more forgiving, but thats up to you.

    I too, have mixed 'hunting' and 'target' shooting. Basically, target shooting at a hunted animal. I have taken deer at and beyond those ranges, (.308, .300win, .338 Lapua). Luckily, it was either a good hit, or a clean miss. But thats not saying it was the right thing to do. I generally only hunt deer with a bow or pistol anymore. It really put the fun and challenge back into it. I have no doubt that I can drop a deer at pretty much any range (especially with the Lapua) but its just not hunting, to me.

    Both your choices are very accurate rounds, but I would choose the .25-06 and still limit my hunting range to 300yds or so, closer if possible.
     
  11. jbarnett31

    jbarnett31 New Member

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    Yea the 500 to 800 yard shot was more of a target shooting range. I had no intension of hunting from that far out. I'd just like to know with practice I'd be able to hit a target at that range.
     
  12. bntyhntr6975

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    We've shot (stationary) clay pigeons at 500 with the .25-06 with no problems, and smack the 650 gong at anytime. The .22-250 is harder, because of the light bullet. Luckily, its fast. But at 650, with a 3mph crosswind, a 50g bullet will drift 2 1/2 feet. Makes targets alot more challenging.
     
  13. gunnut07

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    The 22-250 is not too light for deer. You just have to use the proper bullet for the job. You don't go hunting deer with a darn 55gr V-max bullet.

    A 22-250 with a 60gr Nosler Partition, Barns TSX in 62gr or 70gr, Swift Scirocco II in 62 or 70gr. Will kill deer dead. You as a hunter need to do your part and put the bullet where it belongs.
     
  14. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have owned both and for your intended purpose the 25-06 wins hands down.:D
    Had you said 'varmint hunting' rather than 'deer hunting' I would have went with the 22-250.;)
    In some states the .224 cal is not even legal for deer, and in those where it is, it is not recommended by most knowledgeable hunters!:)
     
  15. 303tom

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    To me the .22-250 is just like .25-06 Lite..................
     
  16. Mongo

    Mongo Active Member Supporter

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    220 Swift is my choice
     
  17. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    The .25-06 is a superb cartridge. I have yet to meet the person who was not thrilled with the accuracy. I cannot load a "bad" cartridge for my quarter bore. Coyotes at 400 are VERY attainable. Deer inside of that.

    I ONLY use 117-120 grain bullets in mine. BTHP's for vermin and BTSP's for deer.
     
  18. tshoot91

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    I've always looked at the purchase of new firearms with the thought of availability of ammo in mind. In my area any caliber that begins .22 is still very hard to come by. I know this is a bit off topic for your thread, just something to keep in mind.
     
  19. tenwheeler

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    I have the Remington VTR in .22-250 and I love that cartridge. That being said, there is no way I would use it for deer sized game and definitely not at the ranges you suggested. I have taken coyotes at 300 yards but 500-800 is a different ball game. My rifle is zeroed at 200 yds and I am showing @ 33 inches of drop at 500 yds. Velocity at that point has dropped in the 1,900 range. I couldn't imagine pulling a trigger on an animal at 800 yds with a 55gr bullet in my gun.
     
  20. mdauben

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    I agree with the general consensus that the .22-250, while a fine varmint round would not be my first choice. On the other hand, I consider the .25-06 to be an excellent selection for deer hunting. I would trust one with the the right bullet choice out to 400 yards if the hunter can do his job, although honestly 300 yards is probably a more realistic max range given the marksmanship of most hunters.

    That said, IMO even 500 yards is outside the realistic hunting range of 99.9% of hunters for ethical shots, let alone 800! Shooting at such ranges is a whole 'nuther thing from shooting at 100-300 yards.

    If you are just talking about punching paper or shooting iron targets that's different. AFAIK, the .25-06 isn't a cartridge you see in long range target competition (I'm no expert in that field, but it does seem to be dominated by 6.5mm cartridges for a number of obscure and highly technical ballistic reasons). But the .25-06 will certainly do for casual long range shooting.