.22LR or .17HMR ?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Wheelspin, Dec 13, 2009.

  1. Wheelspin

    Wheelspin New Member

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    Hope this subject hasn't been asked to death? did a quick search and didn't find anything.

    I asked in another forum about the pro and cons of a semi-auto over a bolt action and got alot of useful replies, thank you all. So my next question is hopefully for shooters among you who own and shoot both .22LR and .17HMR, which do you prefer?

    This will be my first, rifle for target shooting around the 75/100 yard range. No little furry live targets, just the paper variety :p

    .22LR would be the cheaper option ammo wise but is the .17HMR more accurate over longer distances? Is it a more satisfying round to shoot (feel, sound etc)?

    I was looking purely at .22LR rifles but should I be looking at both calibers.

    Any input would be appreciated.
     
  2. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Active Member

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    In my opinion,you should stick with the .22LR. The ammo cost is just so much higher with the .17HMR and you have to have "magnum" length action in order to shoot the .17HMR as it's just a .22 magnum necked down to take a .17 bullet.
     

  3. chucksolo69

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    You might want to try the .17 Mach2. This is a faster, flatter shooting cartridge based on the .22 LR case necked down to .17 caliber. It is a little more expensive ammo than the .22 but has much better ballistics according to some articles I have read on the cartridge.
     
  4. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    for the price of the 17 rim fire stuff you can be buying top of the line 22lr target ammo and turning in some super tight groups. For Plinking I would go with the 22lr. If I were hunting I would go with either the 22lr or 22 mag they are still cheaper than the 17 rf stuff.
     
  5. pioneer461

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    I own both a .22lr (Ruger 10/22) semi-auto and a .17hmr (Marlin 17V) bolt gun. Both are equipped with Leupold optics. My Ruger 10/22 has been customized and the only stock part on it is the receiver. I was not too happy with the Ruger out of the box. The Marlin .17 is as it came from the factory. Both are tack-drivers!

    Your average .22 lr round tends to start pooping out over 50 yds. depending on ammo, but the .17hmr can reach out to 150+ yards and still maintain a tight group.

    I've used both for varmints and both work well, within their respective limitations. The .17 is a bit more wind sensitive.

    Get one of each. :cool:

    Caution: There seems to be a problem with shooting .17hmr in semi-auto rifles.
     
  6. Wheelspin

    Wheelspin New Member

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    I had thought about that, but one at a time :p


    So would a better more expensive .22lr round be capable of a longer range to match the .17hmr? or does the more expensive stuff just make it more accurate at the closer distances but doesn't give you much more distance gain?

    I know my local range has both 50 and 100 yard targets and I want something I can use for both comfortably.
     
  7. opaww

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    I have a .22lr bolt action Marlin and a Savage bolt action .17hmr. I like shooting both and have lots of fun with them. The .17hmr is more accurate and Holds the accuracy at longer ranges. But the .22lr is cheaper to shoot and slightly less damage to game meet.
     
  8. Wheelspin

    Wheelspin New Member

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    Thats what I was expecting and kind of hoping to hear, thanks for the reply.

    So, one of each it is then!:D
     
  9. MemphisJim1

    MemphisJim1 New Member

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    One of each is the best possible compromise. For .17HMR, though, stick with a bolt or lever. The primary ammo manufacturer, CCI, and all the firearms makers have issued strong warnings not to use a semiauto in the caliber (see threads and posts, primarily about the Remington 597-.17HMR).
     
  10. DMac

    DMac New Member

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    Took the words out of my mouth, Jim. Wanted to remind everyone that there was a warning issued by all .17 HMR manufacturers saying not to use the ammo in semi-auto guns, as they have a propensity to misfeed. So if you go with .17 HMR, go bolt-action (or lever).

    Source: American Rifleman on .17 HMR Safety Issue
     
  11. ronl

    ronl New Member

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    If I had to pick just one it would definitely be the .17HMR. Ammo may be a little higher, but the accuracy is amazing. I chronoed the ammo out of my Savage 93 and the CCI avg. was 2762fps. with the 17gr. V-max. Fed. and Hornady both were above advertised velocity. Terminal ballistics at 50yds. were rather impressive with V-max and 20gr. hollow points. I think you made the right choice though, one of each.
     
  12. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Active Member

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    Ammo for the .17HMR is a LOT higher than .22LR. I can buy 550 a round bulk pack of .22LR for the same price as about 75-100 rounds of .17HMR locally.
     
  13. samloopy

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    hrmm i own a marlin 917v its out the box a tackdriver out past 175 easyly. useing a bipod and fairly crapy optics. and hits better than a .22 mag i have seen this round change non shooters in to avid ones and is impressive.

    i also have a .17 HMR autoloader and is the only auto thats not recalled in this cal ... but it is a AR-15 too lol Alexander Arms still sells there upper in .17hmr at about $650 a pop so it is a spendy unit to get together add in 250 ish on a lower and it was a little quarky at the first 150 rounds or so .. had a few stovepipes at times ... mfg said this would happen but by the 200th round it runs like a fine clock.

    [​IMG]

    the early autos had loads of issues with getting things balanced to hold the bolt shut long enuff to let the pressure subside to safe lvls. and still properly cycle the wep. also a lot of mfg tryed to use the .22 wmr they had at the time as the donod to there 17hmr attempt . most lacked a function to not let them fire "out of battery" this led to case ruptures and exploded guns . all of these issues AA solved . also a side note most the ammo i see today says "Warning Do Not use in semi auto firearms with out consulting your firearms mfg"
     
  14. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Go .22 Magnum bolt. Neither a .22 Magnum nor .17 HMR semi-automatic should there be.
     
  15. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    I traded in my 17 and bought the 22.

    Unless you have a specific need, get the 22.
     
  16. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    guys, you do know that you owe the members of the forum at least three birthday cakes apeice!:D