.223 vs 5.56

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by ZackB, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. ZackB

    ZackB New Member

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    I've heard/been told that even though .223 and 5.56 are similar and can be interchanged. What exactly is the difference? Or am I simply just hearing lies? While I'm here, I might as well ask what the difference between .308 and NATO 7.62 x 51 is, because I honestly have no idea.
     

  2. LittleBear

    LittleBear New Member

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    The general rule of thumb us is. You can shoot .223 out of a 5.56 but you cannot shoot a 5.56 out of a .223...5.56 is a Hotter Load, greater pressure....
     
  3. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    And then the opposite is true in the .30 calibers. .308 is hotter than 7.62 X 51 (NATO) and .30-06 Commercial ammo can be bad for some military rifles (M-1 Garand).
     
  4. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I've been firing 5.56mm military ball ammo in .223 chambered rifles for over 40 years with no problems at all. There are several SAAMI myths concerning the alleged differences between .223 vs 5.56mm ammo pressures, case thickness, etc. The US 5.56mm military M193 ball round generates 52,000 psi. See page 10-3 US Army TM 43-0001-27:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/13027441/ammo-data-sheets-small-caliber-firearms

    SAAMI waited for 30 years before warning us of the "dangers" of firing 5.56mm military ball ammo in .223 chambers. This "warning" came at the same time the US market was flooded with 5.56mm military surplus ammo.

    There are about a dozen different .223/5.56mm chambers. Here are the dimensions of eight of them:

    http://www.ar15barrels.com/data/223-556.pdf


    SAAMI "warns" us that all military 5.56mm cases are very thick. This is not so. For over 40 years I have weighed the cases for all of my accuracy loads. The thickest us made cases are .223 Federal Gold Medal and American Eagle. Some, if not all, Brit military 5.56mm cases are very thick. Lapua .223 cases are very thick.

    Go to Brass Weights:

    AR15BARRELS.COM - Technical Documents




    One exception: If your gun has a tight match chamber do not attempt to fire military ball in it.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2010