. 223 reloading help please help

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Fullclipchris, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. Fullclipchris

    Fullclipchris New Member

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    Hey guys I am an experienced reloader with pistol rounds. And I recently aquired a new m4 in a 223 5.56 barrel. I have a lee breach lock press and all my tools. What do I need to reload these rounds. Have the load data. and was thinking about hand casting a rounds with a gascheck. But I heard that the rounds will score my barrel. And its such hi velocity that the lead just melts without a jacketing. Any help at all is appreciated
     
  2. gocritter

    gocritter New Member

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    Lead bullets in a gas opperated semi auto is never a good plan.
     

  3. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    You are going to lead the hell out of your barrel and you will more than likely clog up your gas system.

    I myself would stay away from the lead. Unless you are going to cast them REALLY HARD.
     
  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    i agree with the above 223/556 is waaay too fast for unjacketed.
     
  5. yellowhand

    yellowhand New Member

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    .55 grain FMJ bullets!
    Wideners has good cheap bullets for the .223.
    About 70.00 or 75.00 per K last I looked and bought, might be a little higher now.
    Bought 4 K last time and still using those for most applications.
     
  6. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I cast a 57 gr gas check bullet and shoot it through my AR's. I have experienced ZERO leading problems. Velocity is kept at a moderate 2500fps (or so). Bullet is very hard cast 50/50 Wheel Weight/Linotype.

    Conventional wisdom is that the lead will clog up the gas tube. I have not seen any of that. My barrels are chrome lined and well broken in. I would not use this load in a brand new barrel.
     
  7. 11B-101ABN

    11B-101ABN New Member

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    Buy or borrow a copy of the Lyman publication; "Cast Bullet Handbook". There are several different cast bullet and propellant combinations for .223/5.56.
    They ALL require gas checks and are said to provide muzzle velocity of from 1700 fps at the low end, to 2400 at the high end. Lyman also recommends AGAINST loading for gas operated rifles and they give a good explanation of port pressures and slow powders. There are people that have achieved success with .223 cast at high velocity but usually they are experienced reloaders with much experimentation under their belt.
     
  8. Snakedriver

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    There are plenty of very economical "bulk" .224 dia. jacketed bullets with cannalure available for reloading .223 Rem. / 5.56mm ammo. As stated, cast lead is something to be avoided.

    Look at Cabellas, Widners, Graf & Sons, Midway etc., etc., etc., they all have bulk rifle bullets available in their reloading section. Several times a year Cabellas will have 15% off with free shipping, so I usually stock up. Grafs & Sons prices all have the shipping built-in with only a one time $4.95 handling charge. I've had good luck with Grafs. :cool:
     
  9. dgray64

    dgray64 New Member

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    Everyone is right! Any bullet, pistol or rifle that travels over 1000 fps will lead your barrel, better to go 900 or less. That said, the .223 can't slow that much even when it hits something.

    Going to Wideners is a good deal. I buy a lot of my bullets from Berry Bullet (Berry's Manufacturing) on line. If you spend over $50 shipping is free and they have a really wide range of bullet calibers. Check them out. Opps spoke too soon. They don't have Berry .223 bullets or .243. They have them in Hornady, but they cost more. They have great pistol bullets.

    Dave
     
  10. Longnkrnch

    Longnkrnch New Member

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    I agree with the above. Why go through the hassles that come with leaded barrels and gas ports? If you are just plinking, use plain ole 55grn Fmj. Or, if you want to hunt, there are lots of other copper jacketed bullets to choose from.