.223/5.56 nato

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Shootnscoot, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. Shootnscoot

    Shootnscoot New Member

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    What are some good recommendations for a bolt action in .223/5.56? I hear Ruger M77 is a good choice, but $900 is a bit more than I wanted to spend on a rifle. Are there any out there with comparable quality that's a little easier on the wallet?
     
  2. GTX63

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    CZ 527. My BIL pops coyotes with his. Savage is another in the 110 FP model. Both are much cheaper than $900.
     

  3. phideaux

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    I just picked up a Savage 11 Trophy Hunter, in .223.
    It somes with a Nikon Prostaff scope, and the Accu-trigger.
    Around $500 for a tack driver WITH a good scope= good deal.

    I just sighted it in last week, it is truly a tack driver.

    Yeah I did a little paint job, before I ever shot it.:)



    Jim
     
  4. Shootnscoot

    Shootnscoot New Member

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    It looks pretty nice! How are your shot groups? I'd prefer not to have a scope. I'm more partial to iron sights. Does that rifle come without a scope? I'd imagine it'd be even cheaper without one.
    BTW, that paint job is impressive. Definitely looks unique!
     
  5. phideaux

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    Yes , you can get Savage Rifles in different configurations, without scopes.
    With my eyesight being what it is, I need magnification at 100 yds to see a 3/4" bullseye.
    BTW, thats what that gun shoots as a group at 100 yds ,after a bench rest zeroing , then shooting off bags, 3/4" consistently, using my own handloads with 55 gr bullets. With a good scope set at 6X power.

    I am sure you can get close to that with GOOD factory ammo.
    I dont think I could with iron sights.

    Check out different packages at

    http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

    Jim
     
  6. Tjurgensen

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    The savage makes a lot of great rifles and they have a ton of variety in their models I would also look at the howas they are great guns also they are also out of the box tack drivers and I think they are better built than the savages nothing against them though.
     
  7. joshua87

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    Nice rifle where did you get it?
     
  8. bntyhntr6975

    bntyhntr6975 New Member

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    Not many choices for a bolt action 5.56. Lots of good choices for .223 tho. Which are you wanting? No, they arent the same. A 5.56 chamber will safely fire .223, but not the other way around, unless you have a sloppy .223 chamber with plenty of lead in the throat. Why was this not pointed out from the get-go?
     
  9. Shootnscoot

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    Thats a good point. I've been told by many that they are the same. If this is the case, I'd be more interested in .223 since there are more choices.
     
  10. bntyhntr6975

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    Similar, yes. But not the same. .223s are fine in 5.56 chambers, but most .223 chambers are of tighter tolerance, and some 5.56 wont even go in, and some are tight. Only slight difference in the case, shoulder area. Also, most 5.56 chambers have very long throats so the longer bullets wont engage the rifling upon chambering. The 5.56 is not actually any 'hotter' than a .223, in most cases, but some think that the 5.56 is of greatly higher pressure and would blow up a rifle chambered in .223. The high pressure would be caused by a long bullet in the 5.56 being jammed into the rifling of a shorter throated .223 chamber. Im sure there will be disputes regarding some of this, so please, look it up first.
     
  11. bntyhntr6975

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    Theres lots of good options for a bolt gun. My first recommendation would be a Rem 700. The SPS is affordable, great shooter, even tho it comes with a flimsy half junk stock. Replace it with a Choate and put good glass on top, and youve got a winner. The cheapest option would probly be a Savage Axis. Decent rifles for the money. $300-350 for a scoped rifle that shoots straight is hard to beat.
     
  12. phideaux

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    If your refering to my Savage .223/5.56 ,
    I bought it at my Local Gun Shop. West Ky.
    I looked at others ,around $300, without a scope.
    Gotta have a scope,at least I do, so I thought $469+tx with a really good scope ,3x9x40 Nikon ,good for 200 yds, which is all I shoot, was a good deal.
    This model is popular and I have seen it a several places.

    The paint job is just my little hobby, with 8 coats of clearcoat ,its hard and very tough.

    Jim