.223/5.56 AR15 good for Varmint Hunting?

Discussion in 'Hunting Forum' started by sausn2002, Oct 4, 2009.

  1. sausn2002

    sausn2002 New Member

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    ;)Hi, I just bought an AR15 and already had a BSA Red Dot Scope. I'm currently getting an AR Riser to raise the scope a little to get in line with my front iron sight.

    Next weekend I'm traveling over 200 miles to the country to hang out with a friend that has started squirrel hunting. I don't have experience Varmint Hunting, but was wondering what everybody's opinion is on using the AR15 for Varmint Hunting.

    As I've seen, there are mixed opinions, and I'm aware the AR15 is great for multiple applications.

    How good is the AR15 as a Varmint Hunting Rifle? What about the ammo it uses (.223 Remington/5.56mm NATO)? (my friend claims he used his AK (7.62mm) to shoot a squirrel, and it turned out fine) Is there a large difference between different type of ammunition with hunting small games like Squirrel (Ball rounds, military ball rounds, target ammo, military target ammo, hollow points, soft points, ect.)?

    Also, I have a Red Dot Sight. Is this a pretty good optics to use. I know I might not be able to go a great distance away from a Varmint with this, but I'm thinking it can be accurate and very easy to use nonetheless. I'm not much of a scope person, and have experience with military Aimpoints.

    What are your opinions on this?:confused:
     
  2. hunter Joe

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    The .223/.556 will kill them yotes as well as any firearm out there, plus the bonus of hunting with a really cool gun. You may want to re-think the .223 for those tree rats though, try .22 rim fire IMFreak'nO. Hey, just have fun and be safe.
     

  3. stalkingbear

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    The AR makes an excellent rifle for varmints but I don't consider squirrels to be varmints-they're too good to eat. If you have a .22 rimfire that would work out great.
     
  4. sausn2002

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    Good advice, guys! I'm very much still excited that I decided to buy the AR15. There's so much I can do with it, and being in the Navy gives me more pride in owning one, since the US Military still uses it as the primary firearm. I should have fun shooting some varmints this weekend (for the first time I might add).
     
  5. cpttango30

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    Check the regs I don't think you can use a centerfire rifles on squirrels. Your limit is 6 a day of red or fox unless you are west of teh blue ridge then you have some different rules.

    As for varmints the Ar is showing up more and more on the P dog fields. I would carry one for ground hogs just so I could slap 20 rounds in the mag and carry 1 spare and be done with it.

    I use a Remington 700 VLS in 223 as my varmint rifle.

    the 223 is a great varmint round it offers low recoil and doesn't heat the barrel as fast a the bigger 22-250 and 220 swift and 223 WSSM.
     
  6. kusterleXD

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    The .223 is also a great round to hunt coyotes with! I'm looking forward to getting my AR with scope dialed in to 200 yards so I can bag a few coyote pelts. I have a tentative trip to the range planned for the weekend. I hope the fair weather holds up.
     
  7. sausn2002

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    Yeah. I'm thinking of getting a telescopic scope bought for my AR at some point. Right now I have a Red Dot Scope that isn't telescopic, but it sure makes targeting easier, and would make hitting moving targets a little easier too.
     
  8. sausn2002

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    Anyone have a quick link to the net of a site that may help me figure out what I'm supposed to do once I actually shoot a varmint? My friend back west that I'm seeing may know, but just in case, I'd like to read about it inexpensively and quick if possible.
     
  9. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    What you do after you shoot them NOTHING.

    We take ground hogs and throw them back in the hole close to where you made the internal organs into external organs.

    Other than that we leave them to the yotes and buzzards.

    Here is what a ground hog looks like after taking a 50gr V-Max out of a 223.
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  10. sausn2002

    sausn2002 New Member

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    Whoa! That's not necessarily clean, but it looks like it did a fine job. V maxs are hollowpoints?
     
  11. cpttango30

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    Hornady V-max bullets are polymer tipped. They are especially for varmints. They are made with very thin jackets so that when they hit something they blow apart. That was a one shot kill at exactly 75 yards. A buddy of mine shot a ground hog at 100 yards with a 270 weatherby mag running 100 gr HP varmint bullets and it blew up like he threw himself on a land mine.
     
  12. Lawman51

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    The original questoin is sort of like asking "will a coupe" be OK for a road rally?"

    There are so many makes and variations on an AR-15 it would be impossible to answer with sufficient detail. The general answer is easy though - "it can be." Depends on how you have it set up and exactly what vermin you are after.

    You need to take it to the range with the ammo you wish to use (or several candidates to test). It may vary with the mission but about the least performance I would accept personally from a varmint rifle is 1 MOA (Minute of Angle or 1.05" at 100 yards) for a 5-shot group. There are certainly ARs that will do that or much better. It usually takes a bit more optic than a red dot though.

    OTOH, if you are controlling the coons, woodchucks and 'possums that are raiding the backyard garden and the range is less than 50 yards, almost anything will do.

    Good luck!!!!

    Lawman
     
  13. MAGNUM44

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    AR 15's ?

    What kind of AR15 did you buy one of thoes fancy ones with a custom made target barrel, or just a straight out of the box AR 15? just curious I have a original Colt civilian model without the foward assist on it, that I bought new around mid 1970's & it is great on yotes, chucks, or any thing else in that size. I handload my 223 ammo with V- max or Norsler BT either one does a great job on game, so on Squirrls I would only try head shots other wise there will be no meat left for the pot. :eek:
     
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