.22 Pistol or Rifle?

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by Lindenwood, Jan 1, 2012.

  1. Lindenwood

    Lindenwood New Member

    I have decided to downsize my (already small) gun collection to just two guns for myself. One will be my 17L that I already carry daily, and the other will be a .22. I intend to do a whole lot more adventuring, in my future, and these two will be very practical for me.

    I also have a single-shot .308 and a Walther P22 that I will removing from my collection and probably be dumping off pretty cheap (including all the .308 reloading equipment and remaining components, except my press) since I'd be happy to just get them in the hands of someone who will enjoy them.

    I already have a Marlin 795 that shoots just fine. However, I have long wanted a Buckmark and have been considering trading my P22 and some cash for one (the only reason I hadn't is because girls like shooting the P22 :p ).

    To the Point:
    .22 Rifle Advantages:
    1) I already have the rifle, two mags, and a good sling for it.
    2) I know that in any sort of stressful situation, rifles are easier to manage than handguns. Not that I would want to count on a .22 for anything serious, but if I did, I'd rather it be a rifle than a pistol.
    3) I could pass it off to any companion if necessary, and know that they would be FAR more effective with it than they would a pistol.
    4) Somewhat extended range.
    5) Practice with it would not interfere with muscle memory for the Glock.

    Pistol Advantages:
    1) CONCEALABILITY. Holstering the Buckmark IWB on the opposite hip of the 17L would allow me to carry it anywhere I could legally carry my 17L. Few state parks would allow me to openly carry a rifle on my back, and I'm not sure I would like to be so conspicuous even if I could.
    2) Weight / Comfort. If I am going on a long hike or mountain bike ride, a 2lb gun holstered on my hip will be far more comfortable than a 4-5lb rifle awkwardly slung over my shoulder and interfering with whatever pack I may be wearing.

    I personally am pretty skilled with a handgun, probably moreso than I am with a rifle (relatively). I honestly think I could take a squirrel using a high-quality target-oriented .22 from almost as far as I could with my open-sighted rifle. I am not amazing by any stretch, but I think if I could get prone or supported against a tree, I could reliably make a 40yd shot if I had to. Of course, with the same support I could probably make a 50-60 yard shot with a rifle, but

    Yes, there is a good chance I'd keeping the .22 rifle and trade the P22 and .308 for a Buckmark so I'd have both. I do like the rifle, the GF likes the rifle, and it has lots of practical value, of course. However, this downsizing is more for personal and admittedly emotional reasons (resolutions, and all) than for practical reasons, so keep that in mind before jumping me for selling them ;) . In all honesty, if I did get rid of the .22 rifle I'd just as likely give it to my GF, as I would be lucky to get $75 for it toward a trade.

    So, what do you think about the .22 Handgun vs Rifle delima? If you had to choose one for all your .22 needs, which would it be, and why?
    I am leaning toward the Buckmark just because a handgun in my waistband or backpack is better than a rifle left at home or in my trunk while I'm out on a long ride. But, at the same time, barring this a rifle is a far better tool.

    Am I overemphasizing the need to always have a second .22 firearm on me? Would leaving the rifle in your car or at the camp be preferrable to having it on your person while out on the hike / ride?

    Thanks in advance for listening and responding.
  2. Silvertip 44

    Silvertip 44 New Member

    .22s are good little shooters and economical at that. However, they are not considered to be a first line of defense or if necessary offense.
    Then if you only had a .22 and left it in camp or in the car, I rekon there will still be plenty of sticks lying around in the woods for defensive purposes.
    It's not squirrels and rabbits you have to worry about, it's something far worse.

  3. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

    A pistol scope or red dot will make 50 yard shots with a 22lr pistol fairly easy from a rest. Just remember the pistol does not have the same power level as the rifle. I have a camo seat cushion that is filled with Styrofoam pellets. It is very light and makes a good rest for a pistol or a rifle. A hiking stick will also help stabilize the pistol.
  4. Lindenwood

    Lindenwood New Member

    Any defensive use is only a tertiary role for the .22(s), behind first as a target gun, and second as a potential woods gun.

    The Buckmark would not be scoped, as that would prohibit the option of IWB carry, which would be one of the driving factors behind getting a pistol in the first place (for me). Even with open sights, though, I am confident in my ability to shoot it quite accurately if I can brace it against anything reasonably stable (like the ground, or a tree limb, or whatever). Of course, not likely as accurate as a rifle with the same support, but still accurate enough for "survival" purposes.
  5. hmh

    hmh New Member

    Check into a marlin papoose it might be a good compromise
  6. TimKS

    TimKS Member Lifetime Supporter

    YOU have to decide if you want a gun to hunt small game with or conceal. A long gun is much preferred to hunt with......a short gun to conceal. There are not many 'fold up' guns out there like the Kel-tec Sub 2K. :)
  7. Lindenwood

    Lindenwood New Member

    I am leaning more and more toward just trying to trade the .308 and P22 straight across for a Buckmark. While this has been a rather emotional time for me and I am very excited about some of my solutions and resolutions, I think I would ultimate regret not keeping the rifle (especially since I'd probably barely get $75 trade-in value), even though the pistol I think would indeed more accessible for my forseeable uses.
  8. pabyanghao

    pabyanghao New Member

    depends on what you would want your ammunition to do. i prefer .22 rifles because it is just enough for my need.

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