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Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by bigtiller, Oct 28, 2011.
How far could an average shooter reliably shoot a 2 inch ring with a scoped rifle?
Depends on the barrel and ammo.
A good barrel and match ammo with no wind should be able to go 100 to 150 pretty well. I have two 10/22 (both built up pretty well) will hold within that at 100 yards without any issues. Out to 150 it falls way outside of that. I would think a magnum would hold out to 150 alright.
I think it depends more on the shooter then anything. A good quality rifle and ammo that it likes will help but the guy holding it has more to do with it's accuracy.
The round itself should be accurate to at least 200 yards.
right gun, ammo and scope, you doing your part, you might even get beyond 150 yards with decent size groups. wind is going to be a big factor the further out the bullet gets, because it's losing velocity. some of the newer 22 WMR ammo is faster and more accurate than the older ammo.
The above three guys are correct that the cartridge would be capable of that out to 150-200 yards. But on the practical side, you would be lucky indeed if you could do 2" groups at half that distance with an out of the box rifle using the rifles favorite ammo. I would say if you bought a rifle and tried several brands of ammo and the best you could do was 2" at 50 yards you would be about average.
Just stay away from Win Dynapoint. It shoots 1 foot lower at 100 yds then the better quality stuff of the same weight like CCI.
I own a Stirling .22 mag and have found that by bedding,floating and a little bit of work on the trigger this thing shoots less than thumbnail groups at 50yds. Testing different types of ammo is the best way to do this as my Stirling will shoot everything into a 1/2 " group but it just detests CCI mag ammo with a passion and groups minute of paddock with this stuff.
I go to a annual shoot here and we have a shoot called the Black Panther Cup where we have an A4 size picture of a Black Panther set at 200yds rimfire only event and the bullseye is the head and to virtually win the comp you would have to have 1 shot in the head and it isn't as easy as it sounds especially when you've got a crosswind to contend with.
It all comes down to ammo that the gun likes,a good 'scope and the shooter's ability,this being the most important because without this the other 2 are useless.
Thanks for the help.
I am trying to decide how much more money I want to drop into this caliber. I already have a Ruger Single Six with both cylinders.
Sometimes those pesky raccoons are just out of reach with a 22LR.
check out the Marlins or the Savage rifles, as both are very accurate and priced decently.
I'll second that...it was a Marlin 25MN that got me addicted to .22WMR...added a couple Grendels and I was Hooked for Life
2" at 150 is no problem for the Marlin. But as was stated before, you have to do your part
Good Equipment helps...4-16x40 scope, bipod, and sling. Trigger job & doing the Second Action Screw Mod help even more
Only paying $80 for the rifle and whooping .17HMR shooters at the range...Priceless
This is a Grendel R-31 carbine w/ 30-rd mags...if you can find one for less than $1K, you done good
Trigger job I can figure out but what is the "second action screw mod"?
just curious myself, as heard of it before a couple of times, just didn't know what it was.
If it's like the Stirling .22 mag there's only 1 screw holding the action to the stock so what is needed is a 2nd screw fitted generally where the 2nd trigger guard screw is.If theres enough metal on the actual action above where the 2nd trigger guard screw is you drill then tap a hole there and fit a longer screw through the 2nd trigger guard screw and you now have 2 screws plus a bedding and floating job to give the rifle a new lease of life accurracy wise,regards
This is where I always get good buys from impatient people. "I tried all sorts of ammo and it doesn't shoot worth ****!" I find out "all sorts" is four types of ammo and then I buy the "broken" gun for practically nothing.
But just like anything mechanical, every gun has its preferences. And until you put twenty (20) OR MORE types of ammo through your firearm, you don't know if you've found the perfect ammunition for it. Yes, glass bedding, floating, trigger jobs, accurizing, barrel replacements, and all the rest will tighten the group, but until you know you have matched the best possible ammo to THAT gun, your not going to get the best groups. And it doesn't matter what brand, weight, bullet design or anything else works in the exact same make and model of your friend's gun or somebody on the forum - its completely personal to each gun. You have to do your own work but it is so worth it! And if you plan to replace the barrel or do any barrel modifications (Magna-Port or similar) you should do that first then test, as the changes can cause the ammunition choice to change - no need to do the work twice!
very well said, i am very much in agreement with you on this. rimfires to me seem more finicky with ammo choice than centerfires.
I second checking out the Marlin rifles. I've got several and they're all great shooters. FWIW, 22 mag is one of my favorites.
I have a Handi 22 mag Sportster ( not a heavy barrel).
My particular rifle does not care for the 30 grains = 1 3/4 inch over 4 brands , the 40 grain get 1 1/2 inch over 6 brands, and the 50 grain Federals give me 1/2 inch groups.
I have done little to the rifle except pillar bedded the fore stock and cleared it to give a free floated barrel and smoothed the trigger sear and use 20 pounds of torque on the fore stock bolt.
My Browning A-bolt gold medalion will put 5 CCI Maxi-Mags in a 3/4" group at 100 yards all day long. But, you really can't compare newer/ cheaper rifles to it as it is true craftsmanship. I paid $475.00 for it about 15 years ago. It wears a 3-9x40mm Bushnell w/ see through rings. Barrel contour is heavier then most. When I bought it everyone that saw it said the same thing. That front sight blade is itching to be snapped off. It is still there. Very thin blade.
I just realized my last post did not state that I was shooting at 50 yards.
I was making no claim to supper accuracy but just what my rifle will do.
I always love to see what other rifles can do with a particular ammo because it tells me what that 22 mag ammo is capable of doing.
I'll keep shooting and tweaking to improve my groups.
The O.P. here, it looks like the only new choice is bolt action. I vaguely remember problems with the Ruger semi auto's but I was surprised that Marlin, Savage and Ruger don't have a lever action.