.22 Hornet .vs. .223 Remington

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Winchester94, May 4, 2014.

  1. Winchester94

    Winchester94 New Member

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    I'm think of getting a bolt action in one of these calibers. I'd like to use it for coyote and just a general shooter. Shooting these types of rifles are gonna be a new thing too me, nearly all of my rifle shooting experience is with leveractions at about 100 yards. I like traditional, blued, wooden stocked rifles but I'm open to trying more modern types. My max shooting distance around here will probably be 200-250 yards. I can only spend around $500.
    Any tips or advice is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    You can find an AR15 for just a little more than $500. I have been seeing S&W M&P sport for under $600 all over the place.
     

  3. Rocky7

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    Since the OP mentioned bolt actions, I think an AR is not in the picture.

    For the money you have to spend, I'd take a hard look at a Savage .223 and put a Bushnell Legend HD scope on it. The total will be a tad over $500 but you'll have a very decent scope and the most accurate ugly rifle that's ever been made. Seriously, those Savage rifles are as plain as a board fence but they do shoot small groups as a rule - and can be had with wood stocks.
     
  4. huffmanite

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    If I were you, I'd consider only the 223. Reason being, if you do not reload, then availability of various kinds of .223 ammo greatly outweighs that of the 22 hornet. Will not get into the ballistics and ect. of each cartridge. While I do not hunt, just shoot paper, I do own both cartridges. Have a hoot shooting my 22 hornet rifle (a custom rifle), but do enjoy my .223 too....I do reload both.

    Suggest you check out the Marlin X rifle in .223. Don't own one in this cartridge, but do own several other Marlin X rifles in other cartridges and consider them very decent low cost rifles. Do know a gent at range I'm a member with the Marlin X .223 and he is quite pleased with the rifle.
     
  5. Mercator

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    By going with the 223 you will make your shooting life easier. For under $500 you can have a Savage with the adjustable AccuTrigger, the best trigger system for the money. Model 25 has a lighter bolt action than the multi caliber Hunter model line. It also has the 60 degree bolt throw angle, like the much more expensive Brownings and Tikkas. That means more clearance for a low mounted scope. The stock is laminated wood, pretty handsome.

    I've seen the Tikka Lite Hunters advertised for $499. The bolt action is colonoscopy grade slick. The bolt is also sleeved and turns 70 degrees AFAIR. You may or may not get wood for this price.
     
  6. Winchester94

    Winchester94 New Member

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    Thanks for the advice but I'm not really an AR guy.
     
  7. Winchester94

    Winchester94 New Member

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    Are you referring to the Axis or are other models available for not much more?
     
  8. Pasquanel

    Pasquanel Proud to be an American Supporter

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    If 200/250 yards go with the .223
     
  9. Winchester94

    Winchester94 New Member

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    I've heard good things about the Marlin, I may have to look into one. I figured .223 would be more common but I was thinking of trying somethings different. How would a .22-250 compare?
     
  10. Winchester94

    Winchester94 New Member

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    I forgot to mention that I'm not including a scope in that price, I've already got one to put on it.
     
  11. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i have to agree with Huffanite on this. the Marlin X7 series are great rifles. well made and very accurate for the price. i currently have three myself and am very pleased with all of them. you can get the XS7VH in 223. i have the 308 version myself. the VH version is the 26" heavy barreled version of the X7 series.

    and the 223 will give you the most options in factory ammo if you are not reloading as Huffanite suggested. there is also the XS7VH in 22-250 if you would like something different as well. the ballistics on the 22-250 are a bit faster and will allow you to reach a bit further out. downside is the ammo is going to be a little bit pricier for the 22-250 vs the 223. varmint hunters used the 22-250 for hunting for many years adn it's reputation for accuracy is proven.

    i paid about $370 for my XS7VH in 308 and topped it with a Swift Premier 8-32x50 scope. mine only has shot handloads to date and does very well with them when i do my part. very accurate rifles.
     
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  12. Mercator

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    It is a dedicated varmint round, it calls for a heavier rifle and a more powerful scope. It outshoots the 223 at long distances but is not nearly as versatile.
     
  13. Winchester94

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    Thanks for the info. I really like the look of the Marlins except I'd like to get a wood stock for. I don't have any experience with Savage rifles but I trust a Marlin.
     
  14. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    Boyd's Gun Stocks has several laminated and walnut stocks available for the X7 series of rifles. my XS7 in 7mm-08 wears a gray laminated stock from Boyd's. i highly recommend the Boyd's stocks as they are high quality at a very decent price. and Boyd's is a vendor on this forum as well.
     
  15. Point6liter

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    My brothers got the savage in .223 and it's great. We took it out the other day to get it dialed in and were pingin fire extinguishers at 300 yards
     
  16. Winchester94

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    I'll have to look at the walnut ones. I'm not a big fan of laminate on most guns but I may like them too.
     
  17. Winchester94

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    Do you know which model he has?
     
  18. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i have two of the Boyd's laminates and am very impresses with the looks of them. very good looking stocks. here is a picture of my gray one i put on my XS7 7mm-08.
     

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  19. Winchester94

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    Those look surprisingly good. I'm still kind of partial to classic walnut but those aren't bad.
     
  20. c3shooter

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    The Hornet was a nice little cartridge. Emphasis on little. Reloading is awkward due to size. Lighter bullets than the .223 or 22-250- around 750-800 ft lbs. The .223 is about 1100-1200 ft lbs, and the 22-250 about 1700.

    The .22-250 can reach around 4000 fps, and is a great long range varmint round (altho I prefer my old .220 Swift for Groundhogs and Prairie Dogs)

    I really would look hard at the .223- fits what you want, will be a LOT cheaper to shoot, and there are several very good heavy barreled bolt guns out there- and Savage has been making better guns than they get credit for.

    And yes, there IS something about walnut and blued steel. But synthetics don't warp due to humidity, and can be bedded better (IMHO)