.22 High velocity rounds for blowback ejection

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by 6shot, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. 6shot

    6shot New Member

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    I have a Iver Johnson TP 22 and the guy I got it from was the original owner who only used "stingers". Will this gun work OK with regular 22 LR ? What other type Mini Mags or High Velocity rounds can you recommend that would work as well as the Stinger load ? Thanks for your time and input.
     
  2. mrjbacon

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    Wildcat is pretty cheap high-velocity ammo IIRC, but don't quote me as it's been a while. Blazer, CCI's budget-brand, is pretty cheap too, and I think there's a brand called Tracer that makes a high-velocity 22 cartridge available in bulk. I think Cabela's sells it.
     

  3. 6shot

    6shot New Member

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    Thanks for the fast reply. I'll look into those types.
     
  4. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Aguila has hyper velocity ammo also. CCI Velocitors are 40gr @ 1400+fps in a rifle. Dont know about pistol velocity.
     
  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    the blazer is supposed to be identical to the minimag with the exception of the bullet being a cheaper to produce non-plated lead rn.
     
  6. Nicodemus

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    Heck, it should work fine and probably even be more accurate with just standard velocity ammo. (1050 fps) ;)
     
  7. pranc2

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    dont bet on it. unless you are sighted in for high velocity you will be shooting high. doesnt matter if it is a .22 or a .45 or rifle or pistol. i have heard that most rimfire conversions like high velocity but that .22 target pistol like standard velocity or subsonic.
     
  8. Nicodemus

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    Actually I would bet on it! ;)
    I am quite aware that lower velocity rimfire ammo will tend to shoot somewhat higher and is generally more accurate in pistols as well as rifles.....However, the O.P. is simply asking what kind of ammo other than CCI Stingers are sufficent to activate the slide on his Iver Johnson .22 pistol. :)

    Quote: I have a Iver Johnson TP 22 and the guy I got it from was the original owner who only used "stingers". Will this gun work OK with regular 22 LR ?
     
  9. pranc2

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    was just trying to say you go change grain and/or velocity and you do get different results. and that is true no matter weapon or round size. dont really know much about that specific weapon so i cant really comment on that part. i can say the best advice was try and see what works well. .22lr is picky with no reason some work well and some dont.
     
  10. soulsniper

    soulsniper New Member

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    minimags are the best for semi auto rifles i have 7 rifles and thats all i use
     
  11. BearTaylor

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    The TP22 was actually designed to be used with Stingers. I bought my I.J. brand new many years ago and it will jam once in a while with standard velocity rounds. However, run Stingers through it and you will quickly notice how much better the little pistol operates.

    This is turning out to be quite an interesting forum. I never dreamed I'd be addressing a question pertaining to a little pistol I shoot several times a year.

    Bear
     
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  12. 6shot

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    Bear, Thanks for the reply. I am in the process of trying different ammo - different weight & velocity. If you still have your original paper work with the TP 22 does it state the velocity of the gun and the ammo to be used ? CCI minimag , up to now , seems to work the best. I am a little shy to try out the heavy load of the stinger. A couple guys at a local gun show told me to stay away from stingers. Being new to CCW choosing the TP 22 as a practice gun I want to make sure I'm using the right stuff .
     
  13. BearTaylor

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    I'm not sure if I still have the original paperwork but you really didn't get that kind of load info with a new gun anyway . I don't know what those fellows at the gun show know or don't know but CCI Stingers have been manufactured for many years and I've yet to meet a modern era .22 pistol or rifle that can't safely handle them. If that were true my little TP22 would have been destroyed years ago. As far as the minimags are concerned I too have used them. They are cheaper to shoot than the Stingers.

    I recently purchased two boxes of CCI's Velocitor Hypervelocity 40 grain copper plated hollow point rounds rated at 1435 fps. They're designed to be used on small game but at $6.30 for a box of fifty I won't make a habit of using them for target practice.

    I bet you can guess which gun will be used test out the new ammo. If you say the TP22 you're right.

    What do you use as a carry gun? I hope you carry a service caliber as opposed to a .22, .25 auto, .32 auto or .380 auto. The .380 is the best of the mouseguns but it's marginal even with great ammo. The .25 auto is the worst of the lot.

    Later------------Bear
     
  14. Hawg

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    I remember when Stingers first came out they had a warning on the box not to use them in semi autos. I tried some in a Marlin model 25 and accuracy was so bad I never tried anymore.
     
  15. 6shot

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    Bear, I also have a Beretta 950 jetfire .25 , and a Kel Tec PF 9 9mm . Hopfully going to the range this week to try out new loads in the TP 22. Will get back with findings. Many thanks for the ongoing info. If you have anymore "helpful hints" using and caring for the TP 22 please let me know. Thanks , 6shot
     
  16. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Some of the semi-autos specifically state that Stingers should not be used (the 10-22 for example). The case length is a little longer than the other .22's and may not seal in the chamber correctly when fired.

    Read the owner's manual (most can be downloaded from the net).
     
  17. BearTaylor

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    I did some checking on that case length issue and it does appear that some semiauto and match grade firearms have a problem with the long case. My Winchester and Marlin lever rifles, Winchester pump rifle, Marlin semiauto rifles, Savage semiauto rifle, Heritage revolver, LLama semiauto handgun, High Standard semiauto handgun and of course the Iver Johnson will cycle the round but accuracy will vary from firearm to firearm. Part of the variation just might be the result of the case length-not necessarily the bullet jumping the grooves.

    Now days I just run Stingers in the old TP22--I don't like spending money on special ammunition if I don't need to. However, if the Velocitor ammo is more accurate and cycles good then the Stingers might be toast.


    Very interesting------------------Bear
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2011