2020 New Gun Owners

Discussion in 'Firearm's Industry' started by Sniper03, Aug 28, 2020.

  1. Les Moore

    Les Moore Well-Known Member

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    And you are absolutely right, sir.

    But we shouldn't use the NRA's poor leadership, in order to excuse our own poor membership.

    We need to unify, and the size of the ship, is far more important than who is at the helm, at this point. As stated before, any politician has an easy target, when our organization, at a mere 4% of our population, appears to be fringe, and it can easily be dismissed as "The Gun Lobby". If only HALF of our gun owners spent the 12 cents a day to join the NRA, at 80 MILLION MEMBERS, we would be a true representative force of the people, and impossible to ignore. Even Democrats would line up, in order to get the support of the very organization they now use as a scapegoat.
     
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  2. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    What ban? Only right-wingers are talking about "bans."
     

  3. G66enigma

    G66enigma Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yup.

    Now, imagine if a serious percentage of those tens of millions decided to attend regional "Board / Policy / Direction" type "round table" discussions in which the membership was heard from and the Board (if necessary) found themselves "on the carpet" for missteps and misdirection. Required attendance by the Board members, of course. If we could get that sort of participation, that sort of personally-present "suggestion box" via dialog that couldn't get swept under the rug, then we all might have a fighting chance at holding them all accountable to the will of the membership.
     
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  4. hairbear1

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    If the gun owners in the US are anything like the gun owners in Australia they'll be a bunch of whinging apathetic complainers who'll say that they'll do this that and vote for the bloke who'll deliver them more guns/freedoms etc but when the time comes to vote they'll vote for the enemy and then complain about why their shooting party in politics doesn't do much for them.
    A 1 party ideal doesn't work in politics and they have to be more liberal in their aims and have many things to push so as to get things done so they have to form alliances at different times with the enemy to vote on things to eventually get their own aims through. A bit of backscratching you might say.
    Here in Australia we have the Shooters, Fishers Farmers Party to represent us who have a broad range of aims because a single issue party won't survive long and are seen as vote stealers from the more traditional party's and even though TSFFP is seen as a minor party they've made their presence felt since 1996 and the major party's(Labor and the Liberals) know we're there even though at a Federal level we haven't got anybody in there YET but at state level we've got representitives in at least 4-5 states.
    The party has taken a few seats away from the majors over the past 10 years an dthis has really got under the skin of the 2 majors and their supporting party's(Labor/Greens and Liberals/ National Party).
    The trouble with a lot of shooters is that they don't understand how politics works and you've got to play the long game to get to your ideals and position which may take years but shooters want everything now like a spoilt child and don't realise that you've got to start out by nibbling away much like eating an elephant..............................little bites but keep biting consistently and you'll eventually get through.
     
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  5. BlackGuns4Fun

    BlackGuns4Fun Well-Known Member

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    Go read Joe Biden's plan to address "Gun violence" .
     
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  6. G66enigma

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    The sponsors, co-sponsors and signed-on types in Congress, for the handful of "ban" type bills in the Legislature come to mind. Plenty of "lefties" seeking forcible control over wide swaths of arms owned by the citizens.

    Of course, most newbie gun owners won't have a clue about any of that. Sad, that so many longstanding gun owners also don't have a clue about what's waiting in the wings for the "right" (read: wrong) time to come along.
     
  7. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    The NRA is in all practical terms finished as a gun rights org.

    It hasn't been one since the 60s

    Scrap the NRA. Its bleeding members like a cut aorta bleeds blood.
    GOA, 2nd amendment foundation, NAGR, put your money in one of them.
    Unlike the NRA none of them have sponsored gun control even once.
     
  8. freefall

    freefall Well-Known Member

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    So antifa and blm are right wing groups?
    You're bathetically predictable.
     
  9. Les Moore

    Les Moore Well-Known Member

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    The plan for gun grabbers is always the same. Tax and legislate gun ownership into near impossible status, one small step at a time. Just like they did in England and Australia.
    They are never satisfied, they never stop, and it will never be over.

    If a ban was seriously proposed, people would see it for what it is, gun confiscation. But when they do it gradually, by degrees, it's just like boiling the proverbial frog, if you throw the frog in hot water, he jumps right out, but start with cold water, and heat the pot slowly, the frog boils, never noticing the difference, till it kills him.
     
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  10. BlackGuns4Fun

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    Yep. His "plan" was put together by Giffords. Click on any of the links in the Biden plan and it will take you right to the Giffords site.
     
  11. hairbear1

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    Errrr........................we've still got our guns thanks but the lying thieving mongrels are always trying new lies and ways to make it harder to get them.
    Some of the garbage that's being peddled out to you Yanks by the latte sipping limp wristed wankers has come directly from the playbook of the anti gun wankers here in Australia.