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Discussion in 'The Club House' started by marlin-owner, Nov 18, 2012.
what are the odds of this happening? i think its a good idea to get out of this obamanation.
It wont happen its more of a statement and all 50 states have filed
The odds of the states actually leaving, very very low unless they are pushed past the boiling point. Basically what those petitions will do is make a statement. If they reach 25,000 signatures (which a lot of them already have), Obama is obligated to respond to them, which HE is part of the reason for the petitions in the first place. This really puts him in an uncomfortable (and probably embarrassing) situation, and shows him that a LOT of people despise him, and his policies.
Have you seen Texas's signatures....150k+.
i think it's important that he does know, that even though he was re-elected, doesn't mean that he not going to be held accountable to those who didn't vote for him.
they even have petition that i signed, asking for his impeachment. it had quite a few signatures on it as well.
Where do I find this signature page to send him to the peach tree????
on the AWB petition thread. VikingDad posted a link.
It wont let me sign it dad blast it!!!!
Perition.Whitehouse.gov you can see all the petitions
OB may actually moderate this next 4 years, this is when he tries to create his book of lies. He never stopped running for office, ever; today he has no office to run for, that will force him to actually try to do his job! Really, he became a lame duck the day he he became re-elected. If he finds he cannot get anything done, the Barry book will look pretty bad and his ego is the only thing bigger than our debt!
Benghazi Gate, polling inconsistencies, Sex in the CIA, F&F, Iranian Nukes, Palestinian Rockets, Syrian Civil Wars, Iraqi Oil Price Manipulation, Egyptian extremists and 20 other foreign "issues" combined with Mega Debt, Skyrocketing Unemployment, increasing entitlements and decreasing sources of wealth to tax leave us in a quagmire that will no longer be able to hide in the shroud of a heated election.
Romney Identified the 47% as those receiving some form of government subsidies and retirements, if that number moves higher over the next 4 years, the Dems will be the ones blamed for that. Each and every percentage above 47% will be another equivalent towns worth of Middle Class Consumers/ Taxpayers that dropped from that class to poor.
Nobody will secede, it wont happen but this is the first time a measurable Populace has actually requested States mass defection since the civil war. Thats not anyones hope for change, especially the party that will try to keep control of the Oval office in 4 years, the damage control will begin immediately, they will point their finger at everyone but themselves.
The next four will be interesting, Im optimistic that we are more resilient and less sheep-like than our "leaders" give us credit for. We will need to recreate the politician to be more like the people and less like the source of our futures.
The states with the largest petitions receive the most Federal aid. I think it's an outstanding way to balance the budget.
I hope these are very embarrassing to the current administration, and may also push some states to consider secession.
personally i don't see secession happening. there is just a huge number of people fed up with the current administrations policies and how they are dealing with everything in general. people are simply fed up and want positive change. the economy sucks, large numbers of people are still unemployed or under-employed, huge numbers on welfare and social programs, and many, many more problems that are continually plagueing our country. people are just plain fed up and tired of it and want to show it and by signing these petitions to secede, is their way of doing so.
i signed one myself. do i want Texas to secede? well if it were to improve my earning income, lower my taxes, grant me my unconditional Constitutional rights and freedoms, and generally better my current living conditions, yes! do i realistically believe that secession or that will happen? no, i don't. but i still want to be part of the message sent to the current administration that i too am fed up and tired of the current state of affairs and the poor handling of our country and the piss poor performance of our currently elected leader. i see signing these petitions as excecising my 1st admendment right, my freedom of speech. i am simply another voice among many.
Looks like there are petitions from all 50 states now, with at least 7
past the 25,000 minimum required for a response.
The response? I'm guessing a long winded sugar coated "tough $h!t"
maybe so. but there is an overwhelming populace that is truly fed up with the way things are, and with the required number of signatures, he will have to at least acknowledge it. i seriously doubt it will change his direction in any policy making or any of his decisions. but we the people will have spoken out and voiced our opinion of his leadership and our disappointment.
Neither one is going to happen in the next 4 years.
I can't decide if that's more funny or sad
We will see in the next 4 years
Secession worked so well the last time in 1860. Sure, why not try it again???