1st 1911...to crimson or not?

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by Copernicus, Jul 9, 2010.

  1. Copernicus

    Copernicus New Member

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    Howdy everyone,


    Since I got such wonderful responses to my "Convince the Wife" post, I've decided to press my luck and venture down the long and winding road of 1911s. I have fired a few at the range and have made a few determinations but I would like some advice from you folks out there.

    First, I seem to shoot better with the smaller barrel guns i.e less than 5 in. I shot the Kimber Pro Carry very well.
    Second, I don't have a ton of money so I'm not sure if the Kimber route is the way to go. Are there any comparable options? The gun MUST be reliable and go bang every time. Also, if I do go the Kimber route is the laser really worth it? This will be a home defense and range weapon.

    Thanx in advance,
    -C-
     
  2. NGIB

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    The only "cheap" short barreled 1911s are the Rock Islands and a Springer Champion GI (if you can find one). I've never been fond of one with less than a 4" barrel. IMHO, get a 5" gun and learn the platform. As far as lasers go, if they work for you great but I've never seen a real need for them...
     

  3. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

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    I agree with NGIB about the barrel length, if you're not going to carry it 5" will be better at the range.

    I wouldn't bother with the laser, invest that money into getting a better gun, more magazines or extra ammo. Night sights would be a much better investment, IMHO.
     
  4. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Check out Ed Brown. I have one and am very pleased with it. (He does have a website.)
     
  5. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    While an Ed Brown is a VERY nice gun, it's a lot more $$$ than the Kimber he looked at. A fella on my local GA forum is selling a mint EB Special Forces for $1800 - which is a good deal...
     
  6. lonyaeger

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    If he is unsure about Kimber from a financial perspective, why would he look at Ed Brown? He could purchase at least two Kimbers for the price of one Ed Brown.
     
  7. canebrake

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    Get the Colt model O4860XSE Lightweight Commander.

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    Forget the laser, use the cash to buy a half-dozen Tripp Research Gen II Cobra mags.
     
  8. danf_fl

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    My mistake, I misread the original post. Sorry.
     
  9. Copernicus

    Copernicus New Member

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    Thanks for the replies guys. Ill let you all know what I get.
     
  10. Copernicus

    Copernicus New Member

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    I went to the range today and on my way home stopped by the local pawn shop. I found a PT1911 like brand new with Hogue wraparounds and 4 mags. I decided to take some advice and learn the 1911 platform before investing a ton of $$. So far so good.
     
  11. Dzscubie

    Dzscubie New Member

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    Now the real question is ............. Will the wife let you buy one? Remember your last post on convincing the wife on buying more guns... were we that good with our advice? :cool:
     
  12. Dutch1911

    Dutch1911 New Member

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    I've become quite fond of my Combat Elite. I received it from Colt about 2 weeks ago, it's now my gaming gun, giving the custom series 70 a break on the ammo count.
    After teaching at POST all last week, IDPA today, I'm into it about 400 rounds without a single hick up.
    The money for the Combat Elite is not real high, and they are easy to find online. If you are lucky enough to be an armorer, well then your price is even better, but then you're stuck in my shoes waiting for 7 months while Colt builds.
    Either way... an outstanding way to go. ALSO... any of the XSE line is a smokin' weapon. If you're into the new fandangled slide serrations, which do have a purpose in life, the XSE is a great way to go.

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  13. CHLChris

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    I do not shoot a 1911, but I have CT on both of my carry guns. I'm glad I have it, just in case I'm in one those exceedingly rare situations that I can't assume my usual stance or something. But when I train, I try my best to ignore that dot out there. I find it can be quite distracting. It's fine for a Glock, but if I had a 1911, I think the closest to laser I would get would be tritium sights.
     
  14. Krieger

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    If the Kimber is a bit too pricey, which is understandable, I would suggest looking to Colt, Taurus, or S&W. All of the above have some very nice pistols. I've never shot a Taurus or S&W, but they've come highly recomended to me.

    Also, I agree with the others who said if you're not gonna carry it on a daily basis, I stick with a 4"-5" barrel. But, this is a personal preference matter.
     
  15. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Better to ask forgiveness than permission.:)
     
  16. Copernicus

    Copernicus New Member

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    Well I went with the Taurus PT1911. I really like the feel of it and the quality seems great. I'll post a range report soon
     
  17. CHLChris

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    Since the thread was about crimson trace, what about the big question? To lase or not to lase?
     
  18. jackg

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    Hi,
    I have the Kimber Pro Crimson Carry and, I will never, never get rid of it. If you buy it w/out the CT grips you'll regret it. The cost as an after market item is more than the difference between the pro & the crimson prices.
    FYI: I also have the CT grips on my Walther PPK/S .380
     
  19. DrumJunkie

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    If it's me buying and I don't want a 5" barrel I'll go with a Commander length. It's not much shorter but the .75" less in barrel length makes sitting down with an IWB better for some people.

    When you get to the 3" 1911 type weapons the cost starts to bump up pretty high. Many have had reliability issues with their 3" models not wanting to feed as well as their bigger brothers do.

    If this is going to be a first 1911 then a full size model is almost a must. But if you are convinced that you shoot a shorter bbl. then take a look at the plethora of commander length models out there. Two of the best commander length I've owned where a Colt Combat Commander and my still daily drive a Para Ord LTC.

    AS to lasers I don't see them as much more than pricey toys. But each shooter is different. A lot of people like them.