Well, I finaly bought a real genuine German Military Luger this week. I had mixed feelings about these guns, was it used to shoot one of our guys and things like that. It will be a great addition to my 1911 collection, and I can see that you can get hooked on these guns very easily. I got both these guns for 950.00. He also brought a J P SAUER & SOHN Drilling over for me to buy. And he said he had another one that was in worse shape than this one. The first one is pristine.