1918 colt 1911

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by Ultimate_sig, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. Ultimate_sig

    Ultimate_sig New Member

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    I jade a fine pistol come up for trade it dates back to 1918 and seems to have original finish along with grips. The pistol seems to be in good shape. Can anyone give me a value range of it


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  2. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    A lot.

    Sorry, I'm don't know much about the value of vintage Colts. I've seen older ones go for anywhere between $1000-$3000+.

    Was it an military issue? WWI? WWII? I believe that would add to it's value.

    The gun looks pretty nice. A little rough, but that just adds to it's character. Especially if it's a milsurp.
     
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  3. armsmaster270

    armsmaster270 New Member

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    The frame appears to have the US Govt property stamp on it. The rear sight is aftermarket.
     
  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Can't tell much without closeups of all markings. .serial numbers are very important in determining actual date and originality of other parts.
     
  5. texaswoodworker

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    Did a quick google search and there are a few things that help increase it's value.

    If it is all original (not a refurb)

    If it is marked US PROPERTY

    It's condition.
     
  6. Ultimate_sig

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    What would yall say it condition is in and yes it is stamped us army
     
  7. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Am NOT an expert on 1911 pistols- but there are a few things there that would make me ask questions.

    The 1911 was adopted in, well....1911. It did not have scallops in the frame behind the trigger, had a "double diamond" grip checkering, and had an arched mainspring housing. Front sight and hammer were also slightly different from the 1911A1.

    Which was adopted in 1924. Yours looks like a 1911A1. Which could not have been made in 1918. And, as pointed out, that is not a GI rear sight.

    The real high $$$$ colts are ORIGINAL. In the original configuration. Do not THINK that one meets the bar, so to speak. may be a great shooter, but a great collector's gun? Well.............

    Sorry, but would have someone that IS a whiz on 1911s to have a close look.

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  8. Ultimate_sig

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    I know there are proof marks on the gun, I don't have it in my hand to see, all I have are the two pics. Thank you for your input....where's cane
     
  9. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    What bothers me is the fact that someone in the past ruined the originality of it.

    A 1918 did not have finger cuts near the trigger, that yours does.

    A 1918 (without mods) is great to keep, a 1918 (with mods) is not a collector's dream and could only be worth about $450.
     
  10. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Yup--it's been modified some. Finger scallops (smaller than a A1), rear sight, and that magazine release looks
    a little big. If it was modified by bubba the local gunsmith the collector value is gone. It's a shooter.
    If it was modified by a US Army armorer, and you can document it---that would add to the value a bit.

    Nice gun---If it were mine I would clean it up, maybe replace the recoil spring, and shoot the heck out of it.
     
  11. kiabe1

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    Some better pictures would help
     
  12. trip286

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    Based on the pics, what very little I know, and concurring with what the others have mentioned, I'd say this is a project gun pieced together from very old parts.
     
  13. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    That age of Colt is not made of the same metal hardness of those today.

    Polished feedramp, modified frame, sights, barrel was modified to accept semi-wad cutters, different hammer, and maybe some internal work.

    Documentation goes a long way to adding value. Without documentation, that work could have been done by Bubba on his kitchen table.

    If I was looking to purchase this, I would offer a very low figure.
     
  14. Ultimate_sig

    Ultimate_sig New Member

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    That's what I did he got pissy and said 3 gun shops offered $1500 and I replied "then why are we talking"
     
  15. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    That's always something to consider. When someone claims to have gotten such a great offer, yet they still have it...
     
  16. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    he wishes three gun shops had offerd him $1500!
     
  17. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Well---$500 from shop A, + $500 from shop B, + $500 from shop C.

    There ya go--$1500. That kind of math works for the government----:)
     
  18. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    pretty good Bill!:D

    i was kind of thinking the same thing!:p
     
  19. Ultimate_sig

    Ultimate_sig New Member

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    Lmao I should have said that