1917 Eddystone

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by DrGonzo11, Aug 22, 2009.

  1. DrGonzo11

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    I'm trading my Ballester-Molina for a 1917 Eddystone on Friday and i wanted to do some research on them first. I know its a good trade but I'd like to know a little before i jump in. Does anyone know of any good on-line sources for information on the Eddystone's and their markings and history???? As always, Thanks for any help!
     
  2. CA357

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    Hey Gonzo, did you get the 1917?
     
  4. Orlando

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    I may or may not be a good deal. Need more info on the 1917
    I never could warm up to them, they have to be the ugliest USGI rifle ever.
    Let us know how you did
     
  5. cpttango30

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    The eddystone is the more sought after of the 1917 rifles. Not sure why other than I don't think all that many we made. The 1917 is a military rifle that over all not many were made of. It is kind of a replacement or supplement to the 1903 Springfield. Remington made most of them and thus did a little tweeking to create their first big game rifle. The Model 30 and Model 30 Express were to say the least UGLY big action I am talking big enough to take on a 105mm Howitzer I think (Just Kidding). The 1917 could be a very accurate rifle. I have a 308 bench rifle on a 1917 action.
     
  6. DrGonzo11

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    Yeah, I did get it. I'm headed to a Gun Show in a few minutes to try and sell my Ruger P944. When i get back I'll try to get some pics up. That is, if my 5 month old will allow it :)
     
  7. DrGonzo11

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    I think it was a good deal, because those Ballester-Molina's aren't worth much, I traded a beat up CZ52 and some ammo for it. I see the Ballesters for around $250-300 all the time, plus the barrel on mine was pretty much shot up and kind of pitted. The Going Gun show Eddysone price is about $500-$650, so I'm happy.
     
  8. CA357

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    The 1917 will shoot anything. It is much stronger than a 1903. I prefer aesthetics of the '03 looks over a 1917, but it's definitely more stout.

    It is believed that Sargent Alvin York actually used a 1917, not a 1903.

    Either way, shoot the heck out of it. :cool:
     
  9. cpttango30

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    Mine started life as a 30-06 military rifle. Grandpa had it made into a bench gun in 300wm then he didn't like that so he remade it into the 308 that it is now. I had thoughts about slapping a new barrel on it in 6.5-284win.
     
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    You're right about York
     
  11. DrGonzo11

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    OK here's a couple pics,

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  12. bb1

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    Actually the Eddystone is the least popular. The Winchester is the most popular and scarce.

    The Eddystone is prone to breakage when the bbl is removed. Make a releif cut before unscrewing the bbl. It is a huge action. I have seen them in 505 Gibbs and 416 Rigby. I have them in 375 Ackley, 340 wby, 458 Win and 416 Rem.

    There are several excellant works written on the.M 1917 "Hatchers Notebook", "Collectors Only" has an issue devoted to the P-13, P-14, M1917.You can Google 1917 Enfield.

    Alvin York probably used an '03. His Division, the 82nd, was issued the 1917. He didn't like the sights. His son said ,in an interview, that he had "acquired" an 03 and used it well during his visit to France. There seems to be no proof either way.
     
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  13. DrGonzo11

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    That's what I've read too. But in his own diary he wrote that when his unit got to LeHarve, France, they turned in their old rifles and were issued "British" guns. Since US troops weren't actually issued British rifles, and since US troops tended to refer to the M1917 by its origin (it looked almost identical to the British P14), the consensus is that he, like most Doughboys, was armed with the M1917.

    The only thing even remotely close to proof is the diary, but there is not really concrete evidence either way. I guess I have to lean toward the 1917 because historically that's what he was supposed to be carrying and its also mentioned in his diary. One would think that if he went through the trouble of writing about the 1917 he would have also taken the time to write about the lengths he would have had to go through to get an '03. But that's just my opinion.
     
  14. WILDCATT

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    1917

    contrary to posters the 1903 was in very short supply and 3/4 of the troops in france had 1917s.winchester made many and edistone made a great number.edistone was run by remington.I prefer the 1917 for the sights.and it takes 6 cartridges in the mage I have hade several the DCM sold them for $7.50 in early 60s. I got two and two 1903s at $10 and $15.
    the troops near the french sectors got berthiers and those near the british got SMLEs.we were not prepared for any war because of the isolationist policys.we did not have MG so we used french Hotchkiss in 8 mm lebel also the chauchat auto rifle.the best is "the lost battalion"shows the weapons.
    :rolleyes:
    my father was a marine in france and so were his brothers.I have an iron cross with blood on it and a picture of the german my uncle killed.
    actually a nice looking young man.
     
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