1911 Reflex sights

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by Wenonah, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. Wenonah

    Wenonah New Member

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    I have a 1991a1 GM and have been considering a reflex sight. It is my daily carry so it would need to be reasonably small and mount on the slide. I have looked at Leupold Delta Point, Trijicon RMR, and Burris Fastfire. Cash is tight enough I shouldn't be spending money to replace perfectly functional iron but you know how that goes.

    I've seen some real slick installations inlet into the slide that would permit iron sight backup through the lens but that's for later. I'd also like to try it out on my 336 and 870 to see if that's something I'd want to make permanent.

    Does anyone have more than one of these sights on sidearms that could give me their impressions and maybe photos? I looked at the Docter but that's pushing the limit for concealed carry. Any other recommendations would be appreciated.
     
  2. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Optics on a ccw piece in my opinion is a very bad idea. Gets hung up on clothing increases bulk and in a true sd situation your prolly not gonna be using the sights very much. Its not like on tv or the movies where the good guy has time to aim. Of course thats just solely my opinion. I personally try to keep fixed very small profile or nonexistant sights on my sd guns.

    The original very small nubs of sights on the military issue 1911 like you find on some base model guns are perfect for ccw.

    Of course other folks may have a different opinion than myself.
     

  3. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    I echo Jon's thoughts on reflex, or any other "large" sights are not a good choice for carry. But then you carry a FS 1911 Government.

    The reflex sight is gaining popularity in competitive shooting installed on the autoloader. The technology has followed and many manufacturers have offerings that can withstand up to 1,000 g's! It's still early in this development and the cream has yet to raise to the top.

    Keep me in the loop on what you find out and any decision you make.

    I have been interested in this subject and in my research (NO experience yet) the Trijicon RMR (Ruggedized Miniature Reflex) caught my attention.

    Trijicon RMR™

    Lots of options and much more research is needed for me to make a correct choice.


    Adjustable LED
    3.25 MOA Red Dot
    6.5 MOA Red Dot​
    Dual-Illuminated
    13.0 MOA Amber Dot
    9.0 MOA Amber Dot
    7.0 MOA Amber Dot
    12.9 MOA Amber Triangle​
    LED
    3.25 MOA Red Dot
    8.0 MOA Red Dot​

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQaiDjY4NKU]‪Trijicon RMR Sight Review‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
     
  4. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    The JPoint and Docter seem to be the two that are holding up the best right now.
     
  5. ccd8541

    ccd8541 New Member

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    Jpoint on a Springfield 1911, about 8yrs ago:

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    XDMs w/ PFI red dot, few years ago, some ccw use:

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  6. ccd8541

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    Delta Point on M&P9, three months ago, current ccw:
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    Mounting and new iron sights were done by Bowie Tactical
     
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  7. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    How did the JPoint hold up on the 45? Have you head anything about how the Delta Points are holding up on 45s?
     
  8. ccd8541

    ccd8541 New Member

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    It has been my experience that handguns are no problem for any of the good MRD sights. I have used the Jpoint and PFI on 5.56 and 7.62 rifles w/o issue.

    The Delta went straight on the M&P9. If I still carried a 1911 I would not have a worry about mounting it on one.

    As I understand it slide velocity is more an issue than what caliber you are shooting.
     
  9. Wenonah

    Wenonah New Member

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    Wow CCD, I can see you are a real belt and suspenders kinda guy when it comes to gun sights. Reflex, iron and laser on one gun, fiber and tritium on another. Your tritium Novak sights look lonely all by themselves.

    Your Deltapoint installation looks like what I had envisioned eventually. It'll have to wait until I get a smaller CCW and my 1911 becomes a duty holster gun, provided such modifications aren't outright banned wherever I'm working at the time. The quicker ADS and not having to worry about sight alignment would be worth the extra bulk.
     
  10. ccd8541

    ccd8541 New Member

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    On battery life -
    I just changed out the battery on the Deltapoint a few days ago. It lasted right at three months. It is difficult to put that into hours because the sight shuts off if it is motionless for five(?) minutes and has an auto sensor that regulates brightness.
     
  11. Wenonah

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    For a carry gun I figure it would need the batteries replaced every month. Would be a shame if they died when they were needed. I'm thinging the Deltapoint is a bit large for a carry piece. I'm leaning toward the Tritium RMR at the moment but would like to get my hands on one and look at it in various light conditions. Since it would essentially be taking the place of my rear sight I need to be sure it would always be visible.
     
  12. ccd8541

    ccd8541 New Member

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    Battery life tends to be a bit random at times with the sights that have auto adjusting features. I have no accurate idea on how long the sight was actually 'on'.

    Another thing I will keep in mind is that cold temperatures in the past seemed to significantly decrease battery life.

    With all the variables I'm more comfortable just checking and replacing as needed vs on a set timeline.

    The back up sights are effective and a worthy addition for me.

    The size of the Delta has not been an issue. I don't notice it anymore than the Jpoint types that are the smallest on the market.