1911 question?

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by hogger129, Aug 2, 2009.

  1. hogger129

    hogger129 New Member

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    I am planning on getting a 1911. I am pretty sure I want to get a Colt because everybody tells me Colt is the best, and after going and looking at some and asking around, it sounds like Colt is the best one. Are there other 1911's that are better? I feel a bit like I am paying for name brand and not always quality. I do want to avoid Springfields. From what I hear, they jam alot. I would like a stainless one and I was looking at some Series 70's and Series 80's... just wondering if one is better than the other and what one could expect to pay for one new.

    Also, are airsoft guns a good way to practice for having a real gun? One of my friends was asking about it but is uncertain about owning a real firearm and wants to become comfortable with something close first. I told him to get a .22 pistol and practice with that. But I figure an airsoft pistol is built to pretty closely resemble a real firearm, except that it shoots bb's instead of bullets. Plus if he wanted to go shoot it or something outside, you wouldn't have the neighbors complaining about gunshots.

    So if someone could answer my questions for me that would be highly appreciated.
     
  2. General_lee

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    IMO a 1911 is a 1911,I know there are some people that will disagree with me, but you have to understand that it's a matter of opinion, as long as you have a name brand, you can't go wrong. For instance, I own a smith & wesson sigma, some people have told me it's a piece of crap and that i should get a glock instead, the truth is a sigma has the exact same inner guts as a glock, so if my s&w is a POS the a glock is a POS too, I have never had a problem with my smith in any way. But back to 1911's, I know a guy who has had a springfield for about 2 years, has never even cleaned it, (although I have begged him to) and still has not had a problem.
    Just about any 1911 is good, para-ordnance makes good 1911's although they are pricey,
    springfields are good, taurus 1911's are fairly inexpensive but are still fine weapons.
     

  3. Slawth

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    Is he looking to hold up a lemonade stand?

    I am not sure there is any practice for owning a "real" gun. If he isn't comfortable, he can to read up on his states gun laws as well as firearm safety and responsibility and then spend some time renting at a range or shooting with friends that are more experienced to get comfortable before buying a handgun. He'll want to do this anyway to find out which pistol feels the most natural and best in-hand.

    There is no question that Colt is a fine firearm and you can't go wrong choosing one. The best... mmm, that is up for debate.(Cane will surely dispute this- immediately followed by some fancy Colt GIF file) There are a wide range of high quality 1911's out there depending on your budget. You can also buy an inexpensive but solid model and build it to a top notch firearm as your budget allows.
     
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  4. hogger129

    hogger129 New Member

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    How are those Gold Cup Colt 1911s? Anyone here own one?
     
  5. UnderFire

    UnderFire New Member

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    Colts are legendary. Period.
    Can't go wrong with any 1911 Colt series out there.
     
  6. Gojubrian

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    Read around and you will find that the colt's just aren't what they use to be.

    Specs were widened and overall quality has just dropped from what I've read.

    A BIG reason why I chose the kimber over the colt.
     
  7. canebrake

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    I will match my XSE against any Kimber!

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    You're not paying for the name, you are buying a legend!

    Don't buy a 1911, buy the Best 1911 - COLT!

    And I'm pretty sure that today's kimbers are more expensive than their Colt counterparts.

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  8. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    Good Cane, how long have you had that Colt?

    You don't put good money toward things that are going down in quality just because of a name, atleast I don't.
     
  9. slammr

    slammr New Member

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    No knowledge of Colt, but I've been reading a couple of other gun forums and haven't seen a lot of talk about Colt 1911's. Kimber, STI, Springfield, yes. So take some time; ask around, shoot some if you can.
     
  10. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    Welcome slammr. Stop by the intro thread and let us get to know you.

    I've read several threads abour colt's quality slipping on thr and tfl.

    I also talked to my local shops. They've had to send back several new colts and have had disgruntled customers because of it. They haven't had problems with kimbers,etc..
     
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  11. canebrake

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    Not quite a year. I think you can spend a lot more money on other 1911s but why?

    Colt is the original and I'm proud of every Colt I own.
     
  12. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    No doubt about that Cane.

    The answer to the why would be the quality issue i talked about, nothing more. However, Colt customer service has high marks.
     
  13. Defender

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    Agreed, and you were wise to choose a Kimber over a Colt.

    The first 1911 I ever owned was a Colt, and I have fond memories of that pistol. However, in the 21st century, Kimber is the king of the hill when it comes to production and semi-custom 1911's.
     
  14. Gunsmokeray

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    Best 1911

    I have a Para and Randall and a Foster Industries(Parent company of Caspian)built up gun that I assembled for parts. The best one is the one that I have in my hand at the time.
    Colts are legendary for a lot of things but you will not find many at a national championship match nor will you find them sponsoring many matches anymore.

    One thing that makes 1911s great is the diversity of brands and models and endless modifications.

    Look hard at all the variations and do not get hung up with any brand.

    Have fun and be safe.
     
  15. NGIB

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    Mighty bold statement to make. I'd say the 1st series Kimbers are the equal of a Colt; however, the later model Kimbers - I'd say no...
     
  16. IGETEVEN

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    Indeed, I would agree with NGIB on this, based on my experience with both and others I shoot with.

    Jack
     
  17. NGIB

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    I expect Cane will drop by and add his 2 cents to this one...
     
  18. canebrake

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    I think Kimber is experiencing the same thing most companies find when fast expansion occurs.

    Glock is a case in point, good concept but zero improvement in each generation. Just the opposite, the bean counters take a shot at cutting costs and the product suffers.

    I have no skin in this game. If you like Kimber, knock yourself out! But I’ll bet you in ten years you will still be proclaiming that your Kimber is better than a Colt.

    You know what I’ll be saying? “I’ve got a Colt!” (Several Colts)

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  19. Defender

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    The hard truth usually is bold.

    Are you in the firearms business? I've been on the gun show circuit since the 1980's, and I talk to hundreds of gun dealers per year, from a number of different states. Kimber is the biggest manufacturer and seller of 1911's on the planet.

    Springfield Armory is a distant second in sales. Colt isn't even taken seriously anymore. If they had to rely on their 1911 sales alone, Colt would've been out of business years ago. Hardly anybody buys them nowadays.

    I currently own three of the "evil" series II Kimbers that the purists love to rant and rage about. With a combined total of over 10,000 230-grain hardball rounds through them, I've had a grand total of ONE malfunction, compliments of one of the magazines. NOT the pistol itself. I adjusted the lip of the magazine a bit, and it's been perfect ever since.

    One of them has over 6000 rounds through it, with ABSOLUTE PERFECTION. Not a single malfunction whatsoever, including during the "dreaded" break-in period that the Kimber-haters assured me was going to be so troublesome.

    6000 out of 6000 is all the reliability I need. I never got that kind of reliability out of my 1970's Colts, or any of the Springfields I've ever owned.
     
  20. SGT-MILLER

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    What are you going to use the 1911 for?

    If you are just going to shoot it occasionally, and use it as a home defense weapon, then get something like a Springfield Armory GI model (around 550 dollars). Kahr Arms makes a decent budget level 1911 also for around the same price catagory. The Taurus PT1911 is a great choice also for a budget 1911.

    For CC purposes Colt, Springfield and Kimber does have some decent offerings in the compact 1911 arena.

    If you are looking for a more top of the line brand, I suggest you go with something from Dan Wesson, Les Bauer, Nighthawk, or Wilson. They are very expensive, though.

    Personally, I am a big Springfield Armory guy.