1911 Mags

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by Virginia58, Mar 18, 2009.

  1. Virginia58

    Virginia58 Member Supporter

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    I did try to search the forum, but either my search skills are sub par or the information is common knowledge (except to me).

    I have renewed my interest in the 1911 and begun shooting my Colt Gold Cup NM more regularly. Currently, I only have (2) 8-round and (2) 7-round mags (all Colt). I would like to purchase a half dozen or so 8-round mags. My preference would be stainless to go with everything else.

    Heard decent comments about the Chip McCormick, Wilson Combat, and Colt mags, but would appreciate the opinions of what to buy (and recommendations of where to buy). Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge.
     

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  2. Dillinger

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    Nice looking Colt you have there.

    Wilson 47D's are some of the best that I have used, but they are pricey, and only getting worse lately. $28 to $30 a piece. They run very well though.

    I have never used the Chip McCormick stuff, but from what I have heard they run very well also.

    When I got my Nighthawk's they had a purchase plan where I could buy Novak Extreme Duty 1911 magazines, so I took the deal. Those damn things are perfect in both my Nighthawk's and my Kimber. They are a bit cheaper than the 47D's ( These are about $23-$25 a piece ).

    BUT

    And I say this with some tenderness because I know canebrake is lurking about....

    Colt has a funny way of specing out their stuff. What works in a "normal" 1911, might not work worth a damn in your Colt.

    So, get some Colt guys to tell you what they use and take that into consideration...

    JD
     

  3. Virginia58

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    Thanks JD. You're right about mags being pricey these days. Those Wilson 47Ds look nice, $31.95 on their site. Heard nothing but good things about anything Wilson makes. One day I'd like to buy a custom 1911 from those guys, but other things are higher on the wish list.

    The Colt 8-round stainless are $24.95 on CDNN. McCormick's slightly cheaper. Will wait for Cane's feedback (he should be glad to know there's one more Colt guy on the forum:)
     
  4. canebrake

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    I'm working on a product evaluation for Tripp Research. They provided me with some of their 8 round 8R-45-RG Cobra Mags. If capacity is not an issue they have the same high quality 7 round mags.

    Tripp Research, Inc.

    Read the information provided on their web site. They have taken a full bore technology approach to mag development. The real difference, IMHO is they are in the business of quality magazine production. It's their only product, unlike others who make guns and oh by the way some mags to go with them.

    I've got to tell you, these mags are some of the best I have run in the XSE.

    I am holding off claiming them THE best until I get some more rounds downrange but after about 500 I have yet to have any problems! I have shot them just like I test any new gun I get. I start with one round, rack it to battery and shoot looking for ejection and slide stop. Next is two rounds looking for feed, eject and slide stop. This goes on up to a full mag + 1. That's 45 rounds spent for an 8 round mag test. Nearly a box of ammo to complete my test on one mag!

    At this point I can tell you to get a couple of these and work them out. I'm confident you will be satisfied!

    Give Sherri @ Tripp a call 1-877-837-9445 and tell her you talked to canebrake on the firearmstalk.com forum. She is extremely knowledgeable and can answer any questions you have. If you want to go straight to the horse's mouth you can ask for Virgil Tripp and he will be glad to talk tech with you. Try that at Colt, or Wilson Combat!

    I need to say I have had little problem with my 8 round Colt mags for the XSE. The 7 round Colts for my Defender have given me some FTF and FTE issues.

    I corrected the Defender problem with a pair of Wilson Combat 47DOXB, 8 rounders and the problem is history. That was before I discovered Tripp Research.

    When I got my XSE I had ordered a Wilson Combat 500B, 8 round ETM in anticipation of problems with the stock Colt mags. I got the EMT because I have installed a mag well and wanted the larger base. I had no problems with the stock Colt mags or the WC ETM. The XSE runs well with all 45 ammo I have used including HPs.

    Bottom line, when I use my engineering experience to compare the three different brand mags, the Tripp Cobra mags are hands down the best built period!

    When my Defender returns from the refinisher, I will test the Tripp 8 rounder for function where the Colts had a problem. What I have experienced to date, I think they will pass my scrutiny with flying colors. At that point I will declare a winner and will more than likely buy only Cobra Mags for my Colts in the future!
     
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  5. Virginia58

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    I checked out the site and it's definitely worth giving them a call. Clean looking mags and your test results thus far are good indications. Never thought about testing mags the way you describe. I have always loaded them to capacity and fired several ammo types through to see if there were feed problems.

    Thanks for the informative response. Looks like Tripp makes AR mags too.

    What is it with the snakes...Cobra, Canebrake rattler?:rolleyes:
     
  6. canebrake

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    Oh...you'll catch on.......soon!

    My Defender Canebrake with her leather grips.

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    And a Canebrake (Timber) Rattler.

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  7. Sarge43

    Sarge43 New Member

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    Once I found Tripp Research, I ordered and haven't looked back.
    Sarge
     
  8. Dr. Marneaus

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    I use the basic Chip McCormic Shooting Star mags in my Springfield.

    They work flawlessly, have 8 round capacity, and are pretty cheap. I pick em up at gunshows for 20 bucks a pop, but they can be found around for a little less online I think.
     
  9. Hawg

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    I haven't had any problems with Colt mags.
     
  10. Virginia58

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    I did some more research on Tripp, Wilson, Colt and McCormick mags today and gave the folks at Tripp a call. Talked to Sherry there and after a short discussion decided to give them a try. Ordered 5 mags (little price break) and should have them to try out sometime next week.

    Thanks to everyone for the sage advice.

    Cane - The Tripp tip seems dead on. Can't wait to try them out with several types of ammo. As for the snakes...kinda like Indiana Jones, don't like em. The only pic I can warm up to is the one that spits .45.
     
  11. dragunovsks

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    Hey Virginia58, I have a Novak 8-rounder that I use with my RIA .45 and it functions perfectly. I also have 3 stainless 7-round mags that I bought for 7 bucks a peice at KCR MG shoot in 2006. They also function flawlessly.

    A friend of mine uses the Chip McCormick mags and he says they work great. I've never tried any other brand as all my mags will chamber any round I stuff in them from hollow points to FMJ's.
     
  12. canebrake

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    Virginia58, glad to help. I'm sold on Tripp's quality, wait until you get them in your hands. I defy you to find the weld on the mag tube.

    In the photo below you will see the Wilson Combat EMT p/n 500B (Black) .45 ACP, 8 RD. ETM Tactical Magazine, Price: $36.95 (p/n 500 stainless $34.95)

    THE WILSON COMBAT® ELITE TACTICAL MAGAZINE

    sandwiched by two Tripp Research Cobra Mags p/n 8R-45-RG .45 ACP, 8 RD. Magazine, Price: $32.95 (photo shows mags with optional alloy base pad)

    trippresearch.com Online Store 1911 Magazines

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    Notice not only the quality of the welds but the fit and finish of the final product.

    NOTE: I have found one downside while handling the Cobra Mag. Not to worry, Cane has found the issue, felt the pain and by passing along the "fix" should save you from his embarrassment!

    My ego demands I set up the discovery of this issue.

    First I will explain this from a 2nd grader on Christmas morning mentality. The wait for my CCG 460 Rowland kit to get to me had my anticipation so high that experience and training went right out the door! I assembled the gun and headed straight to the range. I forgot everything but the ammo. My range bag (with tools, targets and mag loader ; http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f14/make-your-life-little-eaiser-10558/#post67995) As I started to empty mags at the range it started to draw attention to my hand cannon. This only feed to my hyperactivity! During my frantic hand reloading I was completely oblivious to the Cobra Mag’s machined feed lips and managed to slice the fingerprint off my strong side thumb. I never felt the cut and didn’t even notice it until there was sufficient blood smeared all over the Colt! Either the curious range spectators didn’t see the blood, or thought with the perverse look on my face while wielding that hand cannon it was healthier not to mention it to me! I think the latter is the case.

    Second, is the explanation from a seasoned design and test engineer’s view point. (that I obviously forgot to take with me along with the range bag) If you have never held a Tripp Research Cobra Mag in your grubby little paws you have not experienced the superb quality *note; this may be an engineering thingie* of this product. Even to the layman this quality is apparent, but to an experienced 1911 shooter it jumps out at you! To an engineer it’s ……….well I won’t go there! Part of this quality is the CNC machined feed lips. Closer tolerances mean sharper surfaces and not just from shear presses. Ignoring this fact will get you cut. Being aware will save you my embarrassment!

    To most magazine manufactures’ this is a caveman simple, necessary sheet metal product that begs for mass production and cost cutting measures. And why not? They supply a product to an uneducated and accepting market. It’s not our fault; this technology has not been available to the masses due to cost. More experienced/professional shooters knew and they (or their smith) tweaked their competition mags to a higher performance level. To the rest of us the product continued to be built with little new technology applied since its introduction in the 1890’s. Again, another complement to the brilliant genius of JM Browning!

    Here's a hint: these are the phone numbers:
    Tripp Research and ask for Virgil Tripp: (432) 837-9445
    Wilson Combat and ask for Bill Wilson: (870) 545-3635 I provided the # because it is near impossible to find on their site.
    Make the call and have them sell you their product. That call will tell you a lot about the company!
    And tell them you saw their products here on FTF and canebrake is watching them!

    Go back to post # 7 and see what sarge said.

    If you are considering the purchase of new mags for your 1911, do your self a favor and try one of the Tripp Cobra Mags. I think it will open your eyes!

    IMHO, they're going to replace the standard in 1911 mags, they are the standard!

    I am writing an evaluation for the Cobra Mag and will post when I get a lot more rounds down range.

    Stay tuned, film at 11:00.
     
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  13. Virginia58

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    Got my shipment today from Tripp Research today (5 CobraMags). Inspected them all and I can say they are clean looking and fit well in my 1911. Plan on loading them up and giving them a workout this weekend.

    Cane - I'll try not to remove my thumb print in the process:D
     
  14. canebrake

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    Be sure to let us know if you opinion is as high as mine for quality and function.
     
  15. SlamFire

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    Second the notion . . .

    "Shooting Star" stainless, 8 rd. They're premium mags, flawless. Mine came with "butt pads."
     
  16. Virginia58

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    Ran about 200 rounds through the Cobra mags this weekend with no problems. They aren't cheap, but they seem to be solid performers.
     
  17. CHLChris

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    Cane...

    Those mags by Tripp really look great! It brings up a question in my mind. I like to throw onto my belt a Desantis double Mag pouch when I'm carrying and so can carry any two mags I want. I sometimes carry my 5", but most times my New Detective.

    First, I assume the "G" models will function just fine in the Defender-size 1911. So I'm just wondering if you've had any experience with the 10-rounders? The flush-welded 7-rounder "O" model is great for the gun at 3o'clock, but a couple of 10-rounders would be nice to have around.

    Thanks for the heads-up about Tripp Research!
     
  18. canebrake

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    I have not tried the 10 round mags. I grew up with 7 round mags and when I got the XSE with the 8+1 I really felt ready.

    Going up to 10+1 doesn't appeal to me. I think they would throw off the balance I've come familiar with. I don't think you want to carry two different feed systems for PD.

    If during a tactical re-load you may interrupt your OODA Loop with the mag size change.
     
  19. CHLChris

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    I gotcha. Muscle memory is very important. Again (I say to myself), if I need even 7 rounds it has been a VERY bad day, indeed. I can't wait to do business with Tripp. Thanks for the direction!
     
  20. canebrake

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    Tell Aaron canebrake said hi, and if Shari answers the phone please do the same.

    Great bunch of people and a great product!

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