1911 info

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by crazyman24, Sep 1, 2011.

  1. crazyman24

    crazyman24 New Member

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    Found it in garage can anybody give me some info
     

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  2. crazyman24

    crazyman24 New Member

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    Serial num 223573
     

  3. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    About the only thing I'm positive on is that it was not a WWI or WWII issued firearm. Canebrake should be along sometime today with more knowledge/information than me :eek:.
     
  4. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I only have a rudimentary knowledge of Colt's, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.

    It has a flat mainspring housing which makes it a 1911 rather than a 1911A1 which has an arched MSH. It's a civilian model. The serial number puts it at 1918 manufacture. I don't think the front sight is original.

    More knowledgeable people will be along and will give you more information.

    If you found that pistol in a garage, it is a fabulous find! (I also hope you found in legitimately) Do not shine it up or change anything or use a tool or anything else on it. Leave it alone unless you know what you are doing. Screwing around with it will destroy it and any collector value it has.

    If you know how, just clean and lubricate it.
     
  5. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    I find this particular 1911 very interesting, because from just the pictures it appears to have the 1911a1 beaver tail and the short trigger, but has the flat mainspring housing. If I recall right I believe production of the 1911 stopped and the development/production of the 1911a1 began.
     
  6. crazyman24

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    So what do you think its worth it was my grandfathers he was military and chief of police
     
  7. CA357

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    Post some close up photos and it will help us.
     
  8. crazyman24

    crazyman24 New Member

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    It fires great its 45 auto original mags and all
     
  9. crazyman24

    crazyman24 New Member

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    That's as close as I can get without camera going out of focus
     
  10. neilage66

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    Looks to have been reblued some time ago.

    It's an heirloom and a shooter.

    Good for you! Enjoy.
     
  11. crazyman24

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    Yea i have found quite a few fun guns
     
  12. MrWray

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    I wish tht i could find things like this in my garage!!! I bet it felt like christmas
     
  13. canebrake

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    The receiver was made in 1918 and the lack of the crescent cut behind the trigger matches the M1911 format. The S/N with the prefix No makes it military production. Colt commercial production at that time had a C prefix.

    I thought the commercial slide made this a "collectible" piece because during the May-June 1918 Colt production run they used re-rolled commercial slides to meet production quotas. My delay in responding is due to two items; First the sights look nothing like military issue. And second, I could not remember the rollmark layout for the Colt commercial/military slide. I had to look it up and even with the poor photos you can tell this is not one of these slides.

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    The other parts that are questionable/don't match:
    1. It has a M1911A1 short, knurled trigger.
    2. It has a M1911A1 grip safety tang. (beavertail)
    3. It has a M1911A1 hammer.
    4. It has M1911A1 plastic stocks.
    5. It has the M1911 flat MSH but is missing the lanyard loop.

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  14. crazyman24

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    So how much do you think its worth
     
  15. CA357

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    I'll take it off your hands for fifty bucks. ;)

    Since it has mixed parts, it won't be worth as much as a matching pistol. I'm just guessing here, but I think it's worth $900.-$1,200. Maybe more, maybe less depending on how badly somebody wants it.
     
  16. crazyman24

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    Lol 50 bucks come on now
     
  17. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    The frame is definitely a 1911, not 1911a1.

    I'm wondering if it falls within the criteria of the model 1918 (except the sights) that Colt is now producing. There was a special run in 1918 for a military group.

    Colt Model 1911 Mfg. 1918 Black Army
     
  18. neilage66

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  19. crazyman24

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    I thought it was worth more than that
     
  20. neilage66

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    It's value is the fact it was Grandpa's Old Colt.

    These affect value:
    mixmaster of parts from different vintages
    not US Property marked
    repaired / welded frame (see ahead of slide stop / takedown)
    badly pitted steel
    re-blued and newer finish wear
    internals, barrel and functional status unknown

    It's worth what someone will pay right?
    I feel $500 would be a good offer...just one man's humble opinion.