1911 in 9x23??

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by Trez, Apr 3, 2011.

  1. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    So i was looking up the uncommon calibers for my Medusa, and i came across the 9x23 Winchester. I read its supposedly the best caliber for the 1911. Its the equivalent of a .357 and holds 11 rounds. Ive been wanting a 1911 and i like the idea of it sharing a caliber with my Medusa.
    Does anybody have one? How does it compare to a 1911 in .45? Are they hard to find, what would be a decent price for one?
     
  2. mesinge2

    mesinge2 New Member

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    I don't think there are any current manufacturers still making 1911s in that caliber. If you want a 1911 in that caliber it would probably have to be a custom shop built.
     

  3. TGReaper

    TGReaper New Member

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    9x23??

    38 Super ?? = 9x23

    TGR
     
  4. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    No, the 9x23 Win is different. I read you can convert a .38 super 1911 to 9x23 with a different barrel though.
     
  5. jeepcreep927

    jeepcreep927 New Member

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    No one offers a box stock 9x23 (Dillon or otherwise). It was/ is a niche cartridge to make "major" in competition. Real world performance is negligible in comparison to established rounds created before the major power factor of competition was relevant to anything but competition.
     
  6. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    From what i read the 9x23 is suppose to be the best caliber for the 1911...

    "New cartridges are about as common as promises in a political campaign - and usually about as effective. But occasionally there comes a ballistic inovation that, combined with the right firearm, promises true usefulness rather than mere marketablility - the 9 X 23 might just be such an innovation."
    - Jim Higginbotham

    "The 9x23 has the ability to be to the future what the .38 Super was to the 1920s. Both have a flat trajectory, high velocity and, now, adequate bullet design-the 38 Super lacks the higher velocity of the 9x23mm but they both share the same Winchester Silvertip 9mm bullets. Both lack a wide choice of bullet configurations. If the ammo companies get interested in this updated version of a long 9mm, the potential is there for an excellent small game and personal defense round. Both round are only hindered by the need for a large frame semi auto to handle them"
    - Walter Rauch

    Since the original conversations about the implementation of the 10 rd magazine ban I have been searching for the very best 9mm size rd for the 1911 gun platform. With a long history in IPSC I have been through the generations of major 9mm and major 38 Super rounds. There have been whole generations of 9mm major cartridge combinations for the 1911. Col. Cooper did an early version by chopping off 223 brass and shooting at major, the "Super Cooper". There have been 9x19s loaded short to major and the 9x21, the 356 TSW, 38 Super at major and the new brood of 9mm Supercomp and 38 Supercomp and finally the John Ricco version that came before the super comps: CP 9x23 and it's stolen twin, Winchester 9x23.

    Winchester 9x23 is the best of the bunch. That is what all the hoopla is about. I have written many different pieces about the round. Some are here just for general interst and review. Others are here for specific info. This section of the web site is a bit of a mess at the moment but I get so many requests for info on the 9x23 I hope this helps a bit.

    I think the more you research this round the more you will be impressed with it. When folks like Walt Rauch, Ken Hackathorn, Ed Brown, Mike Bane and the US Special Ops Command are all interested in the same thing and think it's a BETTER idea it bears looking into.

    The 9x23 is worth keeping track of. Things keep getting better for a round that should have died after being still born and being marketed by a company (Winchester in this case) that has never seen the full potenial of the round.

    Where is the potenial? It's in your carry gun. A 11 rd 1911 with the power of the very hottest 357 magnum.

    ive seen some of the factory 9x23 Colt 1911's on gunbroker but there "unfired" collectors ranging from $800 to $1,000 I guess it not too bad considering shops want to charge $850 for mixmaster .45 1911
     
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  7. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Are there any different calibers of 1911's that would share one with my medusa??? I dont want just a 9mm 1911.
     
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  8. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Take a real good look at the .38Super. Check reloading manuals for the bullets that are compatible. (Don't let the caliber name fool you.)