1911 help

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by CaseyChadwell, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    Hey everyone, I have a few questions and knew that someone on here will have me some answers. Here goes...

    I recently acquired a Armscor 1911 9mm that has a double stack hi-cap magazine. I am having trouble finding a magazine for this weapon and was wanting some help from you guys. Also with this weapon, it is loose where the slide and the frame meet and I was wondering if there was anything I could do to make everything fit just a bit tighter. I don't know too much about handguns and didn't know if a gunsmith could fix that or not.

    The other question is this: Does anyone know when or if Taurus will be coming out with a Commander length 1911? I have been trying to find out for a while now and it seems no one knows or wants to talk about it. I really want another commander length 1911 and I want one really bad.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone.
     
  2. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    I used to have an Armscor 9mm double-stack 1911 and it uses the same mags as a Para Ordnance P18. Check CDNN for extra mags. For the frame to slide fit, a gunsmith can tune that up for sure. As far as Taurus - they are legendary for vaporware...
     

  3. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    Ok...Here is a stupid question: What does vaperware mean? I have no clue what that means, sorry for the stupid question:D
     
  4. Pat-inCO

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    Usually associated with programming (software) and usually means non existent software.

    In this case I believe he means they advertise what they have yet to produce. A.K.A. nonexistent product.

    :D

    The DO have some VERY nice concepts (24/7 in .45ACP has EXCELLENT concepts) with mediocre implementation.
     
  5. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    That is exactly what I meant, I was a programmer for many years and vaporware was a common term...
     
  6. Pat-inCO

    Pat-inCO New Member

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    :D Bit twiddlers unite! :D
     
  7. Dillinger

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    Casey - Frame to slide finish can be fixed by a competent 1911 smith. Should take about 30 minutes and should run no more than minimum shop time for 1/hr. Usually $35-$80 depending on the shop.

    JD
     
  8. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

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    Drats! that dastardly Dillinger beat me to it again! What they said. Tightening the slide/frame rails is an easy task for your local gunsmith. As to the commander length Taurus, I'd go with something else rather than wait a long time (possibly forever).
     
  9. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    (Whispering) Kimber, Kimber, Kimber
     
  10. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    Does anyone know of any gunsmiths that I can ship my firearm to to have that work done? There's not a lot of people around here that do that and the one I talked to said that it would be a waste of money to have the slide to frame fit done. He said it would be pointless and that it still not help with accuracy as much as one would think. He said that with the Armscor handguns the accuracy is too expensive to fix.

    I can get ok groups out of it now. I would love to tighten them done a bit. Out of the 15 rounds in the magazine I can keep the ten best around five inches or so (give or take an inch). I would like for it to be a little more accurate and to be tighter (it is so loose now it rattles when you turn it from side to side). I would also like to have a new extractor spring put in because it stove pipes sometimes and sometimes it won't pull the fired casing out of the chamber.

    Is this too much or would you just buy a new weapon? I want to keep this one if it won't cost too much to fix because the grip is big and I have HUGE hands. Thanks and I hope this isn't too many questions.
     
  11. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Anyone who has a 1911 would benefit by purchasing Kuhnhausen's books on the 1911. Brownells.com has them in stock. Well worth the price and will give a couple of hints on how things can be tweaked.
    Just tightening the slide alone will give some improvement, the trick is to get the barrel to align with the sights after every shot. A new bushing, checking the link, check the barrel lugs, etc... will help.
    I've even seen where someone put a series 70 bushing (the one with the fingers) into a Springer with a tapered barrel and tightened up groups. (Though they have a habit of breaking on straight barrels.)
     
  12. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    I will look in to those books. I just went out and shot it again and tightened the groups up quite a by simply shooting Isosceles stance instead of Weaver if that makes any sense. I seen something on Handguns T.V. that said with bigger frame handguns it will help if you shoot that way instead of Weaver, which I usually shoot.

    Anyone out there a gunsmith that can help me out with the upgrades that I would like to have done? I would love to talk to someone. Just P.M. me if you can fix it.
     
  13. NGIB

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    One of our resident gunsmiths resides in the same state you do. Shoot StalkingBear a PM...
     
  14. crockett007

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    Casey,

    I would shoot it first before making any slide tightening moves. My two Colt's are loosy goosy from the factory, and I like them that way. I concentrated on barrel/bushing and lock up improvements. These two Colt's shoot really well. You will get a lot of opinions on whether you need to tighten your slide.

    Don't want to flame the Taurus team, but, I would look elsewhere....?

    Not trying to sway you either way, but, I've seen ultra tight race guns fail in matches after they get gummed up. If the rattle bothers you, well, that's another story, but, IMHO you don't gain that much in the accuracy department by reducing slide to rail tolerances.

    Shoot it first dude, then make your decision on what you really need to do to the pistol.

    regards,

    Steve
     
  15. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

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    If you're dead set on tightening the slide/frame fit I could do that for you if you bring it here to Marion co.