1911 Hammer fact or fiction??

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by BullseyePrecision, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. BullseyePrecision

    BullseyePrecision New Member

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    I was in my LGS today just browsing and decided to look at an ed brown customized 1911. So the worker hands it to me and said not to cock the hammer back with my hand or to let the hammer down with my hand just pull the slide back and dry fire it if I was going to do anything. He told me that cocking the hammer or releasing it with your hand was bad on it.

    I've never heard this and was wanting some insight on the matter so if you know why this is bad on it please tell me why and what its bad on. Thanks.
     
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Allowing the slide to slam forward without chambering a round could cause sear bounce and could ruin a great trigger job.

    Cocking the hammer with the thumb is not as violent and, as far as I've experienced, causes no damage.

    If what the clerk said was true, I would think that Bill at Cylinder and Slide would mention that.
    http://www.cylinder-slide.com/1911safetyck.shtml
     

  3. steadyshot

    steadyshot New Member

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    Hmmmm, you should of ask him what he would tell a person carrying this gun with a round in the chamber and the hammer down?

    One would need to cock the hammer in order to fire the weapon.
     
  4. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    This has to be utter bull spit. I can see no reason why thumb cocking or letting the hammer down would cause any damage. At all.
     
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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  6. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Hey, on the other side of that coin, using the slide to pull the hammer will wear the finish where the two meet.
     
  7. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    That's the craziest thing I've heard. If it was true I have a bunch of messed up 1911's here....
     
  8. limbkiller

    limbkiller New Member

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    The kid was smoking crack.
     
  9. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    uh oh, well shyte, all my 1911's are FUBARed now!:eek:
     
  10. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    That is not a safe way to carry a 1911. They should be either empty chamber or cocked and locked. It is dangerous to lower the hammer on a live round. It is also dangerous to cock the hammer over a live round. Both are because your thumb could slip off the hammer and cause a negligent discharge.
     
  11. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    should never let the slide slam forward on a empty chamber. the guy you spoke to has it all bassackwards
     
  12. steadyshot

    steadyshot New Member

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    Yeah, condition 1or3 is the safest way to carry a 1911. However, we are not talking about carry in this thread. We are discussing function.
     
  13. BullseyePrecision

    BullseyePrecision New Member

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    He said it wouldn't be as bad with one in the chamber I'm looking for real knowledgeable responses not smart a** ones thanks.
     
  14. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    What is so rare about a clerk in a gun store being an idiot? I see nothing strange here. If you find one that knows a Heavy Barreled Savage is not a Fat Indian let me know!!;)
     
  15. BullseyePrecision

    BullseyePrecision New Member

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    I also heard from a gun smith that dropping the hammer down manually will wear on the sear.
     
  16. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    It would be irresponsible to read a post about unsafe gun handling and not say something.
     
  17. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Funny thing about that is, the chamber has nothing at all to do with the hammer itself. That's like saying a certain clock radio in a car will make "this or that" carburetor work more efficiently. Makes no sense at all.

    No, just rest assured the guy didn't know what the hell he was talking about.

    I've been in shops where they didn't want people to cycle the action because of the finish wear that will happen between the hammer and firing pin stop, and demanded that you use your thumb.
     
  18. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    The round as it chambers acts like a cushion in the chamber area.
    Also remember that when the slide actuates when firing, you finger is holding the trigger to the rear, allowing sear and hammer not to be interferred with by the disconnector.
     
  19. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    But what does a round in the chamber have to do with manually letting down a hammer?
     
  20. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    That's pure fiction.