1911 Guru's needed on this

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by yesicarry, May 18, 2010.

  1. yesicarry

    yesicarry New Member

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    Hey all, Found a Used Springfield .45 at the shop today. Compact model. Checkered grips with U.S. part of the engraving. Bushingless barrel. No holster wear marks. No bells and whistles. Standard trigger/hammer. No beavertail. Sights non adjustable with VERY small rear sight notch. Everything looked good. Well lubed. Mag had very little wear marks.

    For 549 plus tax.. Felt GREAT in the hand. But wanted to ask someone who knows more than I if this sounds like a good deal.

    Didn't leave empty handed though. Got some BVAC 115 gr. JHP 9mm rounds. 1000 for $229.00.. The PMC FMJ were the same price so I opted for the JHP's.

    Thanks for any help on the .45.. Yes, Dillinger.. I change my mind more than a woman as you pointed out..:cool:
     
  2. mcramer

    mcramer New Member

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    Im not one of these "GURUS" your asking for, but it was a 1911 without a beavertail, and no barrel bushing?
     

  3. General-Logic

    General-Logic New Member

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    That pistol is a smaller version of the Springfield Mil-Spec(GI) and is supposedly a nice handgun. It is basically a compact standard military styled no frills 1911A1. Zero bells, zero whistles. No beavertail, no extended doo dads...just a solid built basic 1911.

    I have a fullsize Mil-Spec and it has never given me a seconds problem. Ever. I recommend Springfield...
     
  4. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Some 1911's do have a bushingless barrel, and I could be wrong, but I think what was meant is there is a standard grip safety. I would recommend a check on some of the auctions sites (gunbroker, auctionarms). IMO, I would try to get the handgun for about $500 first, but would pay $549 for the Springer.
     
  5. NGIB

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    It's a Springer Champion GI model and $549 for a used one seems a tad high to me. All of the short barreled Springers use a bull barrel (no bushing) and they are decent guns. If the tiny sights don't work for you, it's costly to have the slide milled for a front dovetail to give you the most sight options.

    Again, decent gun but the price seems high to me. Bud's last price:

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_24/products_id/32586
     
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  6. mcramer

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    like i said im not a guru with the 1911's. the only 1911 i really know is the one my dad had me grow up with.

    some friends of mine have the mil-spec SA 1911. I'm fairly certain my next gun will be a Springfield 1911, i just don't know what model yet.
     
  7. DrumJunkie

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    Yeah it's pretty much Springers version of the Officers model (isn't it?). A lot of those smaller 1911's don't use a Bbl. bushing. My MK IV Officers didn't. I'm gonna agree that that might be a little high but I do not know the area you're in to compare. Buds is in Ky not too far from me and that would be high for a used one. Provided Bud's has one. They don't seem to stick around long there. Doing a quick gunbroker search shows prices as high as 634.00 (Mo.) to 477 (Pa).

    If you can find a new one in a shop in your area you might get a better idea about your area. Also do you have any idea just how used the Springer is?
     
  8. canebrake

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  9. yesicarry

    yesicarry New Member

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    Wow, what a difference in prices across the nation. I'm up in Seattle/Tacoma area. To answer some questions. VERY LITTLE wear. Magazine barely has scuff marks. Follower has a very faint drag-line on it from last round chambered. Was a pistol owned by an employee of GS.

    If I get the Toyota Camry for my wife today, there will be no prob. getting the pistol into the house..:D
     
  10. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    So, maybe I was a little high? (Darn medication :) )
     
  11. yesicarry

    yesicarry New Member

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    Got the Camry for the wife today. Looks like the .45 comes REAL soon..:D
     
  12. utf59

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    No, it's the Springer version of the Commander. Shorter barrel than the government model, but the grip is the same size.

    I've heard good things about the Springfield MilSpec (a step up from the GI). I had a Springfield GI lightweight Champion, and it was a piece of crap. Three of us bought GIs — two of us got the Champion, one got the government model. The other guy who got the Champion has had no trouble, and still has his. The other two of us had problems, and we traded them away. Yes, I called customer service. They were great, BTW, which is why I would still consider Springfield for a future purpose. I sent the pistol back, and they replaced the extractor, polished the feed ramp and throated the chamber. It was less crappy when I got it back, but I still wasn't happy with it.

    Move up to the MilSpec. Or higher.
     
  13. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Always go for the best you can afford. The difference in quality between an Ed Brown and RIA is something anybody will notice.
     
  14. lonyaeger

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  15. Gloves

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    me too. It's so hard to find the best .45 for the buck.
     
  16. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    Ah..I thought it was a 3" rather than the 4.25. I Apparently had it mixed up with something else. I've not had any of the GI models but had a few others. I still have a Mil Spec I got a long time ago...With a few mods. Fantastic weapon though it could use some better sights maybe.

    What exactly was the issue with yours?
     
  17. canebrake

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    Conical Taper: A cylindrical feature that gradually changes from a larger diameter to a smaller diameter at a constant ratio. Yep, that's pretty much the definition of a Bull Barrel. I say bull, you say conical.

    * snooty nighthawk *
     
  18. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Dam lon you never said you had a nighthawk whats up wit that?

    Soon he is going to be wearing Hugo Boss suits and whatnot.....
     
  19. utf59

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    It was a mix of FTFs and FTEs. It also threw brass everywhere, but I think that may have been part of the FTE issue.

    When I got it back, the FTEs stopped (new extractor). The FTFs changed from nosing into the feed ramp (polished feed ramp) to nosing into the top of the chamber.
     
  20. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Some things are just better left unsaid.