1903-a3

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by Gunnut-45B, Jul 9, 2013.

  1. Gunnut-45B

    Gunnut-45B New Member

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    Hello everyone,
    I'm new to this group and I know there's been talk about the wonderful 1903 Springfield and the M1917 on this page. I have been looking into buying one or the other. I have a 1915 M38 Swedish Mauser that I'm wanting to sell/trade. If anyone knows of any original 1903-A3s or M1917s for sale that'd be great! Does anyone know a great deal about the M1917 30-06, or possibly have any suggestions on which one of these two rifles would be a smarter purchase? I'm wanting a shooter, not a mantel piece/dust collector. Thanks!!!!!
     
  2. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    i moved this to the curio section since that is what these rifles are and your question is more inline with this subject.

    the 1903-a3 is more desirable and harder to find in original condition. most not all have been re-arsenaled at some point in their lives. the 1903-a3 is the best of the mauser actions and will last several lifetimes and beyound through many rebarrelings.

    the 1917 in 30-06 were stop gap rifles rechambered from 303 to 30-06 and arent that great purely when compairing to the 03-a3.

    please repost your trade and sell request in the trade forums that area isnt really for a general discussion on the 03-a3 :)
     

  3. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I have a Springfield 1903 that was rebarreled in 1942. The receiver is a low serial number (well under 800,000).

    Still has cosmoline from rebarrel job. Interested? PM me.
     
  4. samnev

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    I would be very careful about shooting any Springfield made 03 below serial number 800,000 or Rock Island below 280,000 as they are know to have brittle receivers due to improper single heat treating. Most were withdrawn from service. I own a pristine Rock Island low serial numbered in the 230,000 range that is fine as a collector piece but I would never shoot it.
     
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  5. samnev

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    I to disagree with the Moderator but the 1917 Enfield is a fine well crafted rifle although a bit heavy. Most of the GI's in WW I were armed with the 1917. I would agree with saying a 1903 being a better rifle than the 1917 but the 03A3 is crude when compared with the 1917 in terms of esthetics. It is lighter and fine in it is own right but if I had to choose 1 of the 2 for a new collection I would choose the 1917 assuming both are in the same condition. It is very difficult these days to get a un-refurbished 1917 and much easier to find an un-refurbished 03A3 in comparison. The price asked for the 1917 has sky rocketed in the last few years as collectors are scoffing them up.
     
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  6. robertusa123

    robertusa123 New Member

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    I have a 1917 the edeystone 1918 vintage with ornigal baral and 2 1903. one 1917 re baroled in 42. And a Remington a1 1942 vintage all grate shooters but I like the bolt on the 03 more. I see 1903 retailing in the 1500. And the 1917 are also starting to lick the grand mark. Sorry I'm not planing on parting with mine
     
  7. Gunnut-45B

    Gunnut-45B New Member

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    Thank you everyone! I have recently gotten my hands on an unmodified 1903-A3! I will post pictures soon! I have plans to get a 1917 though. I love them both, but the 1903 was higher on my list!
     
  8. 25-5

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    I think you will like the 03A3 rear sight over the 03. Especially as the years creep up on you. A handy item is the USMC front sight cover. It protects the blade and it is the one you can shoot through. Not so the Remington.
    dcm450shtr@comcast.net is the email of Bill Bentz who makes a great reproduction of the USMC sight cover. Put it on and leave it.
     
  9. indy36

    indy36 New Member

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    When my Grandpa died I got a Remington 03-A3. It has a real nice wood stock (not factory) and he jeweled everything, and it has a Lyman real sight.

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  10. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    Jon, The '03 does not fully support the case head as all other Mauser actions due. How can it be better???????
     
  11. Gunnut-45B

    Gunnut-45B New Member

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    Sights

    That is the reason I wanted the A3 version. The sights agree with my already crappy eyesight. I've seen the Lyman sights before. I'd love to have that setup, but mine is original, and I don't want to drill my receiver. :p Are there ANY sights out there that are more precise than the standard sights, but DON'T require mods to the actual metal/wood????
     
  12. 25-5

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    I like the sights as is but I did get a different front blade when I got the hood. I have not installed it yet, but is supposed to help the sight picture for the old eyes. Top is the Remington original hood, historically nice to have. Bottom is the USMC by Bentz, very handy in the sun.
     

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