1842 Harper's Ferry ram rod

Discussion in 'Blackpowder & Musket' started by HM2Grunt, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. HM2Grunt

    HM2Grunt New Member

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    I need an original ram rod for my musket. The original rods are threaded on the small end to acept the worm and screw. The rod I have is a repro, and is not threaded, and too small to do so. The internet has been no help. Has anyone seen or know a good place to look for this item? I have the original worm and screw and I would like to be able to use the rod for more than just to load. I have posted this on the want section too.
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Did you check Dixie gun works?
     

  3. HM2Grunt

    HM2Grunt New Member

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    Yep, they only had reproduction rods
     
  4. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    If they don't have it you may be in trouble.
    Is it a steel rod?
     
  5. HM2Grunt

    HM2Grunt New Member

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    It's probably iron. I guess that the only thing I can do is to get a bolt that fits the worm, and to drill a hole through it lengthwise, and braze it onto the end of the repro rod. Wish I had a lathe, could center the hole perfectly then
     
  6. skip

    skip New Member

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    Get a short, fat rod - bigger that the parts you're fitting, and long enough to hold them. Drill a tapping thread hole all the way through, reasonably close to center. Then drill a snug hole to fit the rod (or your adapter) half way through, using the first hole as a guide. Now, you can place this jig over the rod/adapter and use it to guide the tapping drill on center.

    When tapping the resulting blind hole, stop frequently to clean out the shavings. You can stick a magnet on the side of an awl and rub its point around inside the hole to get out most of the shavings.

    Hope this helps - cheaper than a lathe.
     
  7. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    http://www.lodgewood.com/1842-SpringfieldHarpers-Ferry-Smoothbore-Brass-Ramrod-_p_490.html
     
  8. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    So did you find an original ramrod for your musket ? I am going to venture & say NO !.......The site I posted, Lodgewood they are premiere makers of reproduction ramrods made right here in the U.S. of A. Chances are you will NEVER find an original. If someone sells you a Muzzleloader complete & tells you that every thing is original, he`s lying to you, because I would be safe in saying 9 out of 10 of every muzzleloader ever built has had the ramrod replaced at least once, just some FYI, hope this helps you some !..............
     
  9. HM2Grunt

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    Nope, never found one. I tried to contact the people at the site you suggested, and never got an answer back as to what the diameter of their rod is, ans if I can thread it to accept the original worm I have. I may have mentioned that I have a repro rod, but it is too small to thread. In the interim, I have made a 3/8 slotted aluminium rod to use for cleaning the H.F. Bore was a little rough, so I also put a Scotch-brite pad through the slot and scoured the bore. Not too may rust spots. Mainly at the muzzle,
     
  10. musketshooter

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    Do a search for piano wire. It is tempered roundstock that is perfect for making a rod as close to original as possible. Original rods are tapered so diameter varies the entire length of the rod. I would just pick a piece of
    "wire" that is closest to the mid point diameter of the original rods.
     
  11. HM2Grunt

    HM2Grunt New Member

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    The company that I wrote to about their reproduction ram rods finally answered, and their rods are of sufficient size to thread the end to accept original accessories. They have them in brass. Would a brass ram rod be a prominently Southern or Northern feature. I still like to think my Harper's Ferry was used by the South because of the initials carved into the stock. Got some response from the forum that the initials were more than likely added after the war because the opinion was expressed that armies did not allow soldiers to deface military arms. I have, however, seen an example of the 1842 musket held in the NRA museum, that has initials carved into the stock, just like mine. The NRA doesn't say whether it was a North or South weapon.