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Funny that you should mention that, I am in the process right now of trying to work up some 180gr SGK, SST loads for my 1:12, just loaded them, need to get to the range in the next couple days. I am using 4350, 748, and BL-C(2) trying to find something with potential. 1:12s are supposed to be able to stabilize long 180s but this 308 has done the best so far with 150gr Speers.