.17hmr or .22mag!!!

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  1. Plinkster

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    ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1454652340.758779.jpg SO WHAT'S BEST???


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  2. Plinkster

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    On a more serious note please post your accuracy results this would be coming out of a 24.8" barrel (CZ 455 Traing Rifle). Thanks an happy shooting!


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  3. Dallas53

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    best in terms of what parameters? what intended function will the rifle be used for?

    and just listing a barrel length is hardly defining the parameters.

    i'm sorry but you question is way too vague to even give any type of informed opinion to.
     
  4. CardiacColt68

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    I see 17HMR on the shelves everywhere I go. Can't remember the last time I saw 22Mag. If you can't fed it a rifle is fairly useless.
     
  5. JCS53

    JCS53 That looks like it hurt Lifetime Supporter

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    I have both. I have better accuracy and longer range from the 17. It's become a favorite. Nothing against 22 mag but I believe the 17 is more effective and accurate.
     
  6. Dallas53

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    the 17hmr can be more accurate at longer distances, as long as the wind isn't blowing!
     
  7. harkersislandnc

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    This is way I favor the 22 mag. I would love a 17 but the 22 mag bucks wind better and I like having a rifle and revolver that take the same cartridge.
     
  8. Dallas53

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    exactly true. this is why I like having both as well as the previous poster said.

    both have their strong and weak points. the 17 is a bit faster than the 22, but it also carries a heavier bullet than the 17. the 17 has an edge at longer distances as long as there isn't any prevailing wind, but the 22 will withstand that same wind better, but has a little less distance.

    to choose or advise for one or the other, if I wanted to stick more to longer distance rimfire target shooting, i'd suggest the 17hmr, if more for hunting uses, i'd suggest going with the 22 mag. just my :two cents:
     
  9. JCS53

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    I have a Ruger single Nine and love it. I still think the 17 is a more accurate and effective cartridge. JMO......
     
  10. harkersislandnc

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    It may very well be but I have had that single six since I was ten and admit I am a bit biased. In all honesty there is likely a hill of beans difference between the two when you factor in wind etc. I do know that a 22 Mag is bad medicine on a ground hog at 75 yds.
     
  11. rjd3282

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    There's more to wind problems than just bullet weight. The 22 mag will be exposed to the wind for a longer time than the 17, assuming the same distance between muzzle and target. The 22 mag hits harder but you can head shoot at 100 yards all day long with the 17.
     
  12. JCS53

    JCS53 That looks like it hurt Lifetime Supporter

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    Hahahaha......I agree. Maybe a hill o beans....
     
  13. Plinkster

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    The CZ 455 .22 barrel can shoot .22 mag and the 17hm2 out of the HMR barrel. Here they are Dallas ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1454711773.310971.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1454711822.630825.jpg


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  14. wknight40

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    Those are two different CZ455's. You are not going to shoot 17HMR out of a 22WMR. The bullet will not engage the rifling. Not sure if the rim of the 17HMR will prevent it from falling through the barrel or not. I know the bullet will just drop through.

    Now if you are pointing out that the CZ455 is available in both, I apologize for the above.
     
  15. jpattersonnh

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    I shoot less then 3/4" groups all day long with my Browning A-bolt Gold Medallion .22WMR.
    Stays the same out to 125 yards. It is a better shooter then my Marlin 917V. Much more predictable. As far as wind exposure being an issue, Ask yourself this. Why does the Military use a 175gr bullet traveling slower instead of a 147gr in .308 for Sniper rifles?

    You data is .22lr and .17HMR. You also can't shoot anything but .17HMR in an HMR barrel, no .17.17HM2 and can't shoot anything but .22WMR in a .22 mag.
     
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  17. stalkingbear

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    After several dismal failures shooting bigger varmints such as coyotes, and wayyy too much bloodshot meat on edible small game, I don't have much use for the 17HMR any more. With the 22 mag I can use solid (FMJ) bullet load and it don't tear up any more meat than a high velocity 22LR HP if as much, and HP for bigger varmints works good out to about 150 yards.
     
  18. MemphisJim1

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    I had both but ended up selling off the .17HMR because (at the time) the round was rated only for bolt and lever action rifles. (Yes, I know Volquartsen has a semi in the caliber but Ruger had already discontinued its 10/17 and Remington got bogged down with its botched recall of 597s in .17HMR). My bolt gun was a Marlin 917V and it was a honey -- smooth, accurate and everything else you'd want except a faster rate of fire. In rimfires, I want at least one of each type (semiauto, lever, bolt and slide--if available) with a nice selection of proper magazines. In .22WMR, I have a Marlin bolt and a Winchester 9422M. Since unloading the Remington 597M, I'm still looking for a semiauto replacement: I'd really like to find a semi-vintage 10/22M. I grew up with the Winchester Magnum round and find in my old age that it meets any beyond-.22LR distance requirements I might have. To me, .17HMR is better suited to varmint eradication at 100+ yards and I just don't have shooting requirements at those distances and my 72-year-old eyes are not calibrated for that kind of shooting anymore, anyway. And my expereience was the .22WMR is a little cheaper than the .17HMR. (In my younger days I used to look at set-in-their-ways old guys with a sense of bemusement. Now that I'm in the category, the amusement factor is substantially diminished.)
     
  19. Dallas53

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    Plinkster, you can not shoot 22 WMR our a 17 HMR barrel. the bores are different sizes.

    22 WMR is .224

    17 HMR is .172

    22LR is .223

    so even the bore of the 22LR is smaller than the 22WMR.

    unless i'm missing something, because your question and your dialogue are rather vague, you can't shoot 17 HMR ammo out of a 22 WMR barrel and vice versa.
     
  20. big shrek

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    Why limit yourself, get both :)

    I've literally got buttloads of .22WMR platforms...Grendel, Keltec, Marlin...
    but finding the ammo at a decent price has been rough for the last few years...

    However, I've come to believe that owning anything that isn't easily reloadable
    may bite one on the buttocks...as it is now...in the same boat with my .22lr's...
    as I can get 50 .40-S&W cheaper than I can a box of .22WMR or .22LR bulk boxes

    .22TCM seems to be the way to go next...
    reloads out of .223/5.56 cases, more FPS than any 9mm or .40 on the planet :)