.17hmr general questions

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by Dr. Marneaus, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. Dr. Marneaus

    Dr. Marneaus New Member

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    Hi!

    I've been playing around with the idea of getting myself a .17hmr, mostly for fun.

    What's the max effictive range on this round? Both target and hunting?

    I've read they still have enough oomph at 150 to use on varmints?

    What about target wise?

    I want something cheap to shoot that I can play with at some okay distances. Specifically looking into a Savage 93R17 BTVS Left hand....
     
  2. craigdes05

    craigdes05 New Member

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    They still have the speed at 150 but the accuracy is not there..just shot one the other day was good at 100 but anything more than that and the wind plays too much of a factor
     

  3. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    I found I could stay reasonably consistent to about 100 yards with a Savage 93 w/ 9x scope. Beyond that was pretty ineffective. YMMV
     
  4. c3shooter

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    Got a Savage 93 heavy barrel, with a LOT of scope, bipod. With 17 gr polymer tips, I am getting as good as 1/4 inch groups at 100, DEPENDING ON WIND. They still have energy for groundhogs at 150, but wind plays hell on those bits of thistledown you are shooting. For lighter varmints, 200. Again, wind controls.

    A 22 LR zeroed at 50 drops about 4.5 tp 5 at 100. 17 HMR zeroes at 50 drops about 1.5 at 100. Moving faster, better ballistic shape.
     
  5. tonydewar

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    what thay said 17hm2 in a converted ruger -1 in @100 2 in @ 200 if no wind 17 grn bullet? its deadly for paper
     
  6. tuck2

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    My use of the 17 HM2 and 17 HMR rounds is limited to shooting prairie dogs. In the spring pups weigh about 6 to 8 Oz. The biggest adult I weighed was a bit under four pounds. One year I shot over 2,000 prairie dogs with the 17 rimfire rifles. I live in prairie dog country so when the wind get over 10 MPH I stop shooting and go home. Past 125 Yds for the 17 HM2 and past 150 Yds shot placement must hit the bigger bones in the p dog or most likley they will get back into their holes. I have inspected very few p dogs that were shot in the rib lung heart area at longer ranges but the few I inspected the bullet holes going in and out were the diameter of the bullet. I now switch over to a 17 or 221 Fireball rifle for shots over 150 Yds. My Cooper 17 RF rifles are accurate so I have shot p dogs at longer ranges up to about 200 yards with the 17 HMR.
     
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  7. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    What scope do you use?
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i have savage mod. 93r17 heavy barrel w/ 6-18x40 scope on it and have shot it accurately at 150 plus yards w/ 1-1 1/2" groups. but as others have said, wind is a big factor with this rimfire. there are some who shoot this round at 200 yards and more, but wind is your enemy with this light weight round. it's fast, about 2500-2600 fps. i don't hunt with mine but just given the size, i wouldn't try for anything larger than squirrels or rabbits past 100 yards myself. try one out, you will really enjoy this round, i do. another point to consider is the ammo is more expensive than 22lr or even 22wmr ammo. i pay about $12-15 for 50 rounds of the Hornady 20gr XTP ammo.
     
  9. jpattersonnh

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    I have a Browning A-bolt Gold Medalion .22WMR and a Marlin 917v .17HMR.
    They are both fun, and do the same job, but the 917 was a pita to break in, get to shoot poa/poi. From day one my Browning shot 40gr maxi mags into 1" or less groups. the 917 shot 20gr fine but 17gr like a shotgun pattern. I switched the scope on the 917 from a 6-24x40mmAO to a 4-12x42mmAO. Things got better. The more I shot it, the better it got. Hands down the Browning is made better, but when I bought it it was $475.00 compared w/ $200.00 16 years later w/ the .17HMR. (The shop owed me). Up here in The North East we have Wood Chucks, They can get to 12..20lb but when the grass gets high, they are hard to find. .22lr, .17HMR, .22WMR, not much of a difference at 75 yards. .22WMR w/ a 40gr at 120 yards is kinda maxed out. .17HMR, 150 yards. If there is a breeze, the .22WMR wins.
     
  10. Dr. Marneaus

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    Well, I was all set on a fancy pants Savage with a thumbhole stock and whatnot, but found something significantly cheaper, locally, used, and went with that.

    [​IMG]

    All ready for zeroing. Marlin 917VS, it's not left handed, but its a monte carlo stock so the only pain for me being a south paw is the bolt location. no biggie though.

    Topped it off with a 4-16x40 varmint scope, 1/8MOA adjustments. Not telling you the brand because you'll laugh...but It had decent reviews and was priced right.
     
  11. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i like that even better than my savage 93r17! i really like the laminated stock. they didn't offer the 93r17 with a laminated stock when i bought mine, they do now. i'm thinking about buying the boyd's laminated stock and putting it on mine. nice looking rifle.
     
  12. big shrek

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    Sweet looking Marlin ya got there!! :D

    Ain't nothing wrong with a Center Point scope...as long as you don't forget to unlock the adjusters before click-adjusting...;)

    Lot of doofuses have shredded their threads by forgetting to unlock 'em...then they wonder
    why the scope no longer holds zero after they break it...Duh...
     
  13. Dr. Marneaus

    Dr. Marneaus New Member

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    Not too bad at 100 yards on a somewhat breezy day. First time i've ever sighted in optics.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Marlinman

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    Ive had a the cheap savage 17 hmr from walmart and iv got a marlin 882 22 mag. The mag out shoots the 17 out beyond 100 yrds. But thats heavier bullets and alot of after market mods to the marlin 22 wmr. Both were being shot with a tasco golden antler 3-9x40mm. My marlin will do anything the 17 will and its cheaper with alot of different brands, bullet types/weights for alot(usually that is) cheaper than the 17's ammo
     
  15. big shrek

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    I didn't wanna burst his .17 bubble...:D

    My experiences are the same...my Marlin 25MN usually outperforms both types of .17 at the range...
    and has the ability to use bullet sizes from 30-grain to 50-grain...those 50-grain Federal GameShok's hit with such a SMACK!!
    Its like dropping a brick off a tall building & hitting a coyote in the head with it...PLOP!
     
  16. Marlinman

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    The cheap 45 gr winchester dynapoints give off some pretty amazing dang results also. Especially when they look like they are a wad of copper foil with a divet in the end of them
     
  17. JonM

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    I dont think anyone will laugh unless your putting an aimpoint on a raven .25
     
  18. Dr. Marneaus

    Dr. Marneaus New Member

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    Cool......
     
  19. Dr. Marneaus

    Dr. Marneaus New Member

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    even if i mention the word "redhead"
     
  20. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i like the 17hmr round myself, and have found it to be very accurate on a windless day. i agree that the 17hmr and even the 17hm both are very lightweight bullets and if there is any breeze blowing, forget about hitting any bullseyes! size for size and ballistics, the 22wmr is a lot better for small game. with that being said, i bought mine for shooting holes in paper at longer ranges than a 22. had i been looking to buy a rimfire for hunting, i would have bought a 22wmr bolt action. in the future, i might still add one to my collection.