10mm & 357sig for hogs....

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by LakeshoreShooter, May 1, 2013.

  1. LakeshoreShooter

    LakeshoreShooter New Member

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    I have used a G-20 for a few hog hunts, and know it can get the job down. But, the other day I was going through the safe to do my quarterly "clean the guns" routine, and when I pulled out my G-32 in 357sig, I started thinking if this round would take a pig within two shots. Anybody out there have experience with the 357sig, and it's terminal performance? I really like the G-32, and I think, it could handle the job. But there's nothing like actual accounts that make things real.
     
  2. glockcj

    glockcj New Member

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    I used my g32 in Texas last year and it was fine. Just don't use jhp. It blows big holes in the meat and insides. I learned after gutting it back at camp. Throw out a lot of meat!!!
     

  3. Olympus

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    Sure it will. Depends on the hog size and shot placement.


    Seen a hog taken with a 9mm Makarov and there are YouTube videos of hogs taken with air rifles.
     
  4. LakeshoreShooter

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    thanks.....

    Good advise. I used 200gr. truncated cone with my G-20. Suppose it's logical to use the TC in a faster flying round.
     
  5. LakeshoreShooter

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    thanks....

    Man, why didn't I think of that. You tube....thanks!
     
  6. Jagermeister

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    As a hunter it sickens me to see people use small caliber rounds for hunting larger animals. The animal should not have to suffer. The whole point of using more powerful rifle rounds is to get a quick one shot one kill while hunting. The animal should not suffer. The difference between a hunter and a shooter is respect of nature and the animal you are harvesting. A shooter does not give a ****. I do not have any respect for a shooter. I have total respect for my fellow brother and sister hunters. In Germany to hunt larger game like boar your rifle round must reach 2000 joules at 100 meters. There is no handgun hunting. Not even a .223 meets this requirement. I totally agree with this rule. A rifle with a caliber like a .308 is more accurate and better gaurantees a one shot humane kill. You can hunt roe deer and fox with a .223 though. But they are small game. This might piss some of the members off, but I do not care. I do care about humane acts and respect of nature. There are handguns that are geared towards hunting, and I can understand more powerful rounds like a 10mm or .357 magnum at close range. But a 9mm or air rifle? That is just effing cruel.
     
  7. ShagNasty1001

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    That's why I have this big ol cannon instead of a wimpy 9mm :D
     

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  8. Olympus

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    I can assure you that I'm more of a sportsman and steward of nature than 90% of other hunters. So I'm offended and insulted by your comment and insinuation. I'm not recommending either of those calibers, simply stating that they will kill quickly and in one shot if placed correctly.

    I was actually present for the 9mm Mak shot and there was no more suffering than if it had been a 300 Win Mag. The hog was small and placement was perfect. It only took one shot.

    The hogs killed with air rifles are all shots through the ear into the head. Doesn't get any more quick and clean than that.

    The fact of the matter is there are just many gut shots, hip shots, legs shots, and spine shots with large caliber rifles. Caliber size does not equal quick, one shot kills. And it's a fool who believes otherwise. Shot placement and knowing the limits of your chosen caliber is what matters most.
     
  9. Jagermeister

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    Olympus, I never mention you in my post. I was talking in general. In your post, you never mention that it was you. As far as gun and leg shots, if you can not make the good shot, then keep your finger straight. I rather go home empty then make an animal suffer. I am aware we are human and **** happens. In Germany I have gotten phone calls in the middle of the night from other hunters to help find a wounded animal. We will search until found. Revier owners are required to own a trained tracking dog, and us hunters are trained for tracking. This is the compassion and respect that I was talking about. Sorry you thought I was talking about you, I was not. Peace brother. Good harvesting. Waidmannsheil.
     
  10. rjgnwdc

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    What'd he say bout Sheila?
     
  11. LakeshoreShooter

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    I suppose I should chime in here....As the OP, I just feel it's my place to say something here.
    Jagermeister, I think by "quoting" Olympus' response, you are, more or less, using him through your response. I think it was not his intent, or mine, for that matter, to see if we can make an animal suffer. I'm thinking that if you subscribe to this forum, I rake you as a sportsman with a hunters integrity. My intention with this post was to simply see if anyone has used the 357sig on a hog. I know the 357sig's capability on humans through police reports. So, maybe this post wasn't "really" warranted. But I did. As far as 9mm, and an air rifle go, I saw an episode of Guns and Ammo a few weeks back, that had Dick Metcalf take a deer with a Benjamin air rifle. This pellet gun took a deer at about 50 yards. And the deer fell without taking a step.
    We all want our hunted game to fall where shot. It's a natural macho-type thing in hunters to have a one shot kill, and to drop in their tracks. I suppose there are some idiots out there that might get off watching an animal suffer. But they're most likely not on this forum. I hope the "enough gun" debate is over. Thanks!
     
  12. glockcj

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    I just want to add that in Texas you use dogs to kick up the hogs! Which means up close shots 2ft-5ft. If the hog is out in a field you use a rifle (.308) you shouldn't chime in on a post if you don't know how we hunt!!!!
     
  13. LakeshoreShooter

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    Hunting hogs....

    Ok, maybe that didn't come out as I wanted I guess. Are you directing this comment to me? Man, I hope not, 'cause we're on the same side here.....
     
  14. glockcj

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    No it is jäger. I read his post and it makes me mad. So mad that I found a new forum. Just for glocks and no BS!!!!!
     
  15. ShagNasty1001

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    So every hunter should carry a .44 mag as a backup or something because its "more humans"? What if they can't handle the recoil? What if they just don't have a handgun of a larger caliber such as that? He was asking about the two he has and if it'd be okay to use... I'd rather have a 9mm over a .22 any day
     
  16. JimRau

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    Good, glad to hear it!!!!:D

    Jager,
    I get the same crap when I tell people I don't agree with beginner and/or average hurters using a 243 for big game hunting. Some people are really hung up on emotion and can't handle logic and facts very well. Just reality I guess!;)
     
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