1000 yard guns?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by redbullranger, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. redbullranger

    redbullranger New Member

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    Hey everybody, im relativly new to shooting, only own a few guns and i was wondering, what guns can be acurate at a thousand yards, or if they can lol. If there are, what is a reliable and affordable one? Im hopeing for about a 1500 dollar rifle, but then again i have no idea about these rifle prices.
    Ohh yeah im looking to target shoot, not hunt with this gun, i would like either bolt or semi auto rifle. Thanks in advance for any help :)
     
  2. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Do you have a place where you can shoot that far?
     

  3. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Lon has a good point. Do you have a thousand yard range in your neck of the woods?

    Next I would recommend a couple of books. Ultimate Sniper by John Plaster, Sniper and Sniper II by Lonsdale.

    Both of them will tell you A LOT about shooting at extreme ranges.

    No semi auto, regardless of maker, is going to get you sub MOA groups at such extreme ranges without a $10K price tag to start. :eek:

    How much do you know about long range shooting?

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  4. redbullranger

    redbullranger New Member

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    Yeah i have a place where i could shot that far, the most ive ever shot is about 3hundred yards with some sorta 7mm rifle(i have no idea what model, what scope it had, or if it was a magnum) so i really dont have much long range experience. I really just want to be able to i guess, so do i need some special rifle, or just learn how to shoot a normal one better?
     
  5. Logan2302

    Logan2302 New Member

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    Start with a bolt action 30-06 with a variable 10X scope. Get good at breaking clay pigeons at 400 yards then try 1000 yards.

    Use 180 gr bt hp's if you can get them. Cheap ammo will waste your money and time. And you'll have to try several brands. This process is the same no matter what gun or caliber you choose.

    If you like the 1000 yard thing you can rework the rifle or go to a magmun or a larger caliber maybe. If you don't, you've got an excellent all around rifle.
     
  6. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

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    It's no problem to get a rifle that will reach out to 1,000 yards. Getting that same rifle to HIT at that range is another matter. What's the most hard however is gaining the ability to shoot AND hit at that range-especially if it's an odd & unmarked yardage.
     
  7. redbullranger

    redbullranger New Member

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    Haha yeah i should have be more specific, i want to be able to hit bullseys at onethousand yards, and i want to know what guns can do it so that im not wasting my time trying to hit it with a gun not even capable of it( like my little .243...) I know a few people, well just 2 that were snipers in the military that would probly be able to help me out, but i dont really know them to good, so im asking you people.
     
  8. redbullranger

    redbullranger New Member

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    So a 30~06 can get consistant 1000 yard hits, if so my dad has a few i could try out, but we definantly dont have any 10x scopes, you have any recomended scopes?
     
  9. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    first off take up reloading. your going to have to shoot a lot to get it down. and buying that much ammo in target grade off the shelf is hardly cheap. off the shelf ammo doesnt cut it for extreme long range. 30-06 is a good comfortable round with plenty of capacity for long range shooting. 300win mag is popular but its not fun to shoot and tend to wear out the barrels faster

    the scope is really really important and so is a good spotting scope.
     
  10. redbullranger

    redbullranger New Member

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    alright, well i just checked out my scope and its actually better than i thought! It says 2.5 to 10 power, and ive just used the lowest setting(2.5) for 100 to 200 yards. lol i didnt knlow it zoomed in more. So could i use this scope on a 30~06 (it s on a 243 right now) and hit that 1000 yard target? Ohh yeah what 30~06 would you guys recommend, i dont want some cheap gun, but not anything super duper expensive either.
     
  11. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    Didn't you say your Dad has a few?
     
  12. redbullranger

    redbullranger New Member

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    yeah kinda hes got one, and my grandpa is the one that has a few, and their all at grandpas house, which happens to be a long ways away (utah)
     
  13. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Redbull,

    What $ Range are you talking about fot the Rifle!

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  14. Logan2302

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    There are loads of rifles out there now. I'm partial to remington for the money but Savage makes a very good rifle for a lot less.

    The scope you have will probably work ok.

    Keep in mind when you're practicing at 100 yards and you get good enough to shoot 1", 5 shot groups (measured from center of the bullet holes), don't be discouraged when you can't hit a 6" target at 500 yards. When you reach extreme ranges the rifle's ability to hit targets will exceed your ability to see the target and hold on it. Not just you, anyone.

    Just for kicks, ask your grandpa if one of his rifles is a "1903 springfield". If it is, you have your rifle!!!
     
  15. wickedins4nity

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    IMHO it would be good to practice an awful lot and keep tight groups at lesser yardages. Do you have a good amount of practice shooting rifles, it is not as easy as you may think to just pick up a rifle and shoot 1,000 yards...there are several variable involved.
     
  16. TCH2FLY

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    A couple of thoughts:

    Hitting a target @1000 yds is difficult and "hitting the bullseye" consistently takes more then just buying brand X rifle with caliber Y .... waaaaaayyy more.

    Do a bit of research, there are plenty of guys competing with 6mm cartridges at 1000 yds. A .243 is plenty capable of hitting at that range and with the right loads it is very accurate. You can't buy the right factory load to do that so you will need to reload and that takes some work.

    I get lots of arguments suggesting a .308 (the .243s big bro) but there are plenty of reason to go that way, reasonably priced match grade ammo, lot's of ballistic data, and several factory rifles that will shoot .5-1.0 MOA right off the shelf.

    I realize it isn't as impressive as saying to your buddies that you have a .300 Win mag or a bada$$ .338 lapua :rolleyes:
     
  17. NGIB

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    In a couple of years (when you're old enough, saw you were 16 in your other thread) join the military and if you show the aptitude - they'll train you to shoot at distance. This IS NOT a skill that's easily acquired or cheap to attain...
     
  18. Txhillbilly

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    Well,that all depends on the rifle.I would rather shoot 100rds out of my 300WM,than 20 out of my 30/06.
    My 300WM is a *****cat compared to my 30/06,but then it weighs about 6-8lbs more.
     
  19. mrm14

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    Hey! My 300 WM is a *****cat for felt recoil as well. It only weighs 17 lbs.:D

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  20. Durangokid

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    We have 1,800 yds out on the desert public lands. Targets are heavy steel gongs. We have a 1,000 yd paper range. Many of the guys shoot the big 50s. I have found the M1 Garand is OK at 800 yds. The AR15 HB 1-9 shooting a 62grs OK at 800 yds. I have a tuned K31 with an 18X power scope which works at 1,000 yds. My Elk rifle an old 77 cal. .338 WCF is very good at 1,000 yds with 250 gr bullets.

    DK