10% will die within 1 month of shtf.

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by ttsl, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. ttsl

    ttsl New Member

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    google for how many people are over the age of 65 and in poor health. How many are utterly dependent upon vehicles, electrical heating or cooling accessories, refrigerated medications, etc.

    what you think the starving dog packs will be eating, hmm? Once they realize humans are FOOD, what then, hmm? when 3/4 of the people don't even own a gun, much less an EFFECTIVE gun, much less have any skill, or any sort of the level of determination needed.

    10% of 300 million people is 30 million rotting bodies. think MAYBE that's going to be a massive disease vector? how many will stop having sex, when they aint got condoms? how many have stds, ALREADY? millions will suicide, when there's no gas for travel, no electricity, no water in the pipes. They can't handle their worthless lives already. that's why they smoke, drink, do dope, etc.
     
  2. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    10 percent might be on the light side in a real ddhtf moment.
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    ttsl, you are just a bundle of cheer today.

    Do not know where YOU live, but here folks get along without electricity for several days each year- hurricanes in summer, ice storms in winter.

    Percentage of homes without a gun? Very minute. Gun owners are NOT in the minority in the country. Skills? Just about anything from butchering a hog to deliveing babies to planting and harvesting. Would diets change? Oh, my- yes. BTW- my grandparents were subsistence farmers. They raised 15 kids on what they grew.

    Cities? Agree that is another matter entirely. Figure the uncontrolled fires would control some of the disease aspects. And for cities, 10% is low by an order of magnitude at least.
     
  4. ttsl

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    yeah, we are in the minority. 70 million gun owners, 300 million people. do the math. shtf is not a temporary thing, dude. when people KNOW the power aint coming back, and SEE there's no gas at the pumps or water in thepipes, it will be much worse than the LA riots, and it will be everywhere, and it won't end for months, until 90-99% are dead.
     
  5. ttsl

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    we have no non-hybrid seed, no trained horses, no trained horse men, no horse drawn implements. the horses will all be EATEN within a month of shtf. there won't be any gardening for at least a year. people will steal all your food, even before it's ripe, and they'll kill you when you try to stop them. Not one person in 1000 is properly prepped, or ever will be. the others will have no choice but to loot or die. they WILL kill you before they watch their kids starve, too. Your neighbors will be the main ones to worry about.
     
  6. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    How do you arrive at a death statistic without describing exactly what SHTF scenario you are working with? Do you think civil war, bird flue, financial collapse and a full-scale nuclear war would produce the same casualties?

    Sounds like a W.A.G. to me.
     
  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    he's just throwing some random numbers out there. notice there is no link or actuall type of SHTF scenario he's proposing. just as you said, a WAG!
     
  8. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    10% isn't even close

    Many in the city live meal to meal and depend on the ATM and charge cards.
     
  9. indy36

    indy36 New Member

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    Late at night, when the people all around me are wallowing in worry, the silence will be broken by the sound of my AK as I accumulate canned goods.
     
  10. txpossum

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    Unless a meteor landed on my home, I would be reasonably well set for a few weeks if the SHTF. I can feed my family for at least three months; I have guns and ammo, a well for water. etc. However, my wife has instructed me that if the SHTF for an extended period of time, I'm to use my first bullet to shoot HER, as she doesn't want to live like that.

    Knowing how she complains when she has all the moden conveniences, I told her I have no problem with that.
     
  11. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    lol That is just naughty
     
  12. Zombiegirl

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    The main thing I would freak about (assuming that I had food/water) would be a lack of toilet paper. I would shatter as a human without it. I'll have to take out the neighbors for their TP.... :)
     
  13. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    Well, since my wife (you know, to be accurate, we're not really married, but have been going together for about 12 years, so it's just easier to call her my wife) started couponing, we stay fairly well stocked with TP. But it goes fast around my house (I realizing with saying that I am opening myself up to comments about what I must be full of), so, when the Charmin runs out, we have a 3 gallon garden sprayer (the kind you pump up) that we can just hose ourselves down with. This also works for a quick shower. We had to do this for a couple of days when out well pump went out. Not as good as a real shower, but it sure is an improvement over not bathing at all.
     
  14. ttsl

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    man, that's what all those telephone books and catalogs are for. The toilet aint gonna flush anyway, so why worry about "non-biodegradable".? also, tp's only been around for `100 years or so, how, oh how, did the species ever survive without it? What about just soap, water and washing out the rags?

    On a far more serious note, how do you watch 360 degrees, 24-7? how do you prevent somebody just driving up to your place, with RR ties or whatever arranged to stop rifle fire? What will you do about Molotov cocktails or snipers? People are very, very naive about what they can accomplish, defense-wise ( and about how desperate people will be, if shtf! )

    What will you do if a large group of unarmed, desperate women and children approach your place, and just CAN'T leave? too weak, etc, to go any further? Gonna shoot them all? what will you do about all the contagious diseases? what will you do if the entire neighborhood, or your prairie/woods burn?
     
  15. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    it doesn't matter how many rolls of TP we have in the house, my wife cannot keep from buying a few rolls everytime she goes to the store. and i mean everytime she goes to the store!:eek:
     
  16. therewolf

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    10%?

    Well, how fortunate that we are all likely

    to survive, then. It'll be a lot like it never

    happened at all . . .
     
  17. TankTop

    TankTop Well-Known Member Supporter

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    SHTF regularly all over the world and generally speaking people pull together, they don't all go into some instinctual survival kill everyone Mad Max sci fi fantasy land. Are there pockets of violence and an increase in crime, sure, but people as a whole (or even a majority) don't lose their moral fiber and kill their neighbors for a loaf of bread. Inner cities on the other hand...
     
  18. Anna_Purna

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    The urban areas in the northern areas will resemble Stalingrad, with not a tree standing. Anything that burns will be used up in the first winter. Out in the country where some people still know how to can goods and fruit will have a better time of it, except for trying to keep the wanderers off their land. Best to start making plans with your neighbors now and whos going to take first watch.

    many of us women will become commodities.
     
  19. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Homey's been pretty much full of nothing but holier than thou attitude and doom and gloom pulled out da ass predictions with nothing at all to back up his claims.

    I suggest not feeding him, or hijacking his threads with talk of ice cream.

    I would like to mention, as it was brought up in another thread, I like both Rocky Road, and Pecan Praline.

    But just a little while ago, I had Blue Bell Homemade vanilla, with chocolate and caramel syrup drizzled on top. Deeeeeeelish.
     
  20. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    Two things made me rethink my position, which was the same as yours.

    Reading the Bosnian Blog, from the guy who lived there. This was a small country, locked in a civil war, with UN and the Western civilizations helping with food and needed stuff. It was described as literally mad max.

    History Channel's After Armageddon was the other eye opener. If the financial system of the US collapses, and think big picture here, what happens? Will you go to work if there is no pay? Think the employees of the power company will continue to work with no pay? How about those that don't stock up any food, but live one fast food meal to another? They will quickly get hungry and desperate. Look no further than the anarchy before and during Katrina. That was one very small region, that still had the support of the rest of the US.