10/22 To Scope Or Not?

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by CA357, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Does everyone just automatically go with a scope on their 10/22's?

    I'm thinking of mounting fiber optic sights on my new project rifle rather than a scope.

    What's the consensus?

    BTW, I just bought a Ruger factory walnut sporter stock. I don't have the rifle yet and will buy it next month. I plan to free float the barrel and of course, it will get a Stalkingbear trigger job.
     
  2. Joe M

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    Here is some results of a comparison I did between my Ruger 10/22 with TSR200 Aperture Sights,,, and my Marlin 795 with open iron sights;

    Marlin 795 (Score: 872 of 1000)

    11/09/09...210-3x (Fed. #745)
    11/09/09...213-1x (Fed. #745)
    11/21/09...220-2x (Win. X22LR)
    11/21/09...229-3x (Win. X22LR)
    Total......872-9x

    Ruger 10/22 (Score: 872 of 1000)

    11/18/09...202-2x (Win. X22LR)
    11/18/09...219-1x (Fed. #745)
    11/22/09...223-5x (Eley Sport)
    11/22/09...228-1x (Eley Sport)
    Total......872-9x

    I used the 5 Bull NRA #TQ-3/5 Target and shot 5 shots at each Bull from 25 yards using the following disciplines over a 100 shot course of fire for each rifle. The only shooting aid I allowed myself was a Sling;

    Top Left Bull - Offhand, Top Right Bull - Kneeling, Center Bull - Setting, Low Left Bull - Prone, Low Right Bull - Prone...

    You may want to look into the Aperture Sights;

    Tech-SIGHTS Precision Shooting Accessories

    A small 3-7x20 or 3-9x32 scope would have probably netted better scores from both rifles in my testing, but I really enjoyed the convenience of shooting these rifle's without a scope.

    I do own and shoot scoped .22's and they have their place as well when a more finite shooting is needed. However, at my age I can't knock the results of Open Iron or the Aperture Sights.

    Here is a picture of the type of target I used when I started this comparison test of sights. The Bulls measure 3-7/8" - and these two targets were shot with my Marlin 795 (Open Sights);

    http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll240/JoethebowM/?action=view&current=100_0490.jpg
     
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  3. group17

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    As your eyes get older I think a shift to a scope for any distance shooting is inevitable. The stock sights on 10/22 are not very good IMO. As a matter of fact I think there is a huge aftermarket for up graded parts because people want to improve many functions of its basic performance.
     
  4. CA357

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    By way of explanation, my eyes aren't what they used to be and I already have a 10/22 with a Nikon Pro-Staff scope on it. That's why I was thinking about fiber optics. I would think fast acquisition could be a plus.

    Please continue, I really appreciate your feedback.
     
  5. ta1588

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    fiber optics would be pretty cool, I agree. I've got a red dot on mine ATM but I don't think I'll ever be getting a scope for this one.
     
  6. Joe M

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    While doing my little test of open sights and the Aperture sight I had to keep reminding myself to focus only on the front sight even though the target bull down range was fuzzy. My scores would rise when I would remember to do this. Just another bad habit I fell into over the years and should have known (and once did know) to always focus on the front sight.
     
  7. stalkingbear

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    My eyes are not what they used to be so I automatically scope all my rifles. I've found that the advantage of only 1 focal plane (scope) is too good to pass up by using iron sights (multiple focal planes or focus points).
     
  8. CA357

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    There you go again being logical Bear. :D
     
  9. notdku

    notdku Administrator Staff Member

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    I scoped my 10/22. I can group like a Master with it.
     
  10. CA357

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  11. Txhillbilly

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    I still have a few 22's without scopes,but I don't shoot them much. Anymore I do good to hit the target at 50-100yrds with open sights.
     
  12. Highpower

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    Another possibility would be an "adjustable" aperture sight, such as a Merit. It works like the shutter on a camera and allows you increase your depth of field to suit YOUR eyesight.
    GunTech : A Sight For Old Eyes - World's Largest Supplier of Firearm Accessories, Gun Parts and Gunsmithing Tools

    A step above THAT would be a diopter sight. Those allow adjusting not only depth of field, but focus as well. Kind of like an adjustable contact lense that is built into the sight. Normally reserved for target shooting though.

    I'm pretty much blind as a bat without my glasses. :(
    But I can take my glasses off and still get a crystal clear view of the front sight and good view of the target with a diopter.

    Just sayin..... you've got options. :D

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  13. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Very interesting.
     
  14. sharpshooter27

    sharpshooter27 New Member

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    i put a scope on my 10/22 and i love it!
     
  15. CA357

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    I bought a new 10/22 today. They're no longer blued, but finished in some kind of matte black coating and the barrel band is plastic. :rolleyes:
     
  16. pioneer461

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    I too have old guy eyes, and I didn't care for the factory sights, so I scoped it. I was working at Leupold at the time, and put on a 4x, fixed, at employee discount of course. :)

    The Ruger 10/22 has been called the Chevy short block of the gun world. There are more after market parts and gadgets than originally offered by Ruger. About the only thing still factory on mine is the receiver.

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  17. CA357

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  18. jcooper

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    10 years ago no scope. now scope. for me anyway
     
  19. CA357

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    The stock and HiViz sights arrived yesterday. Today I bought see through rings online. The new plan is to have the fiber optics and a scope.

    I'll probably put a 3-9 x 40 Nikon Pro-Staff on it. That's what's on my other 10/22 and it works well for me.

    That will give me three scoped rifles. Two 10/22's with Nikon Pro-Staffs and my 1917 Eddystone with a Nikon Team Primos 3-9 x 40. I'm fond of Nikon's, I'm used to them and they give excellent quality for the price.

    I figure the scope/fiber optics should be a great combination.
     
  20. SpikeAR

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    I put a 3-9x40 scope on my 10/22 and you can't miss with it. Its great out to 100 yards I love it great p-dog rifle.