10/22 stock quality? (ATI vs. Choate)

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by Hesher420, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. Hesher420

    Hesher420 New Member

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    I'm sure a few people have a 10/22 they've customized. Is anyone familiar with these Dragunov stocks? I have a Choate stock for my M1 carbine and am very happy with it's quality, but know nothing about ATI.

    Ruger 10/22 Fiberforce Stock by ATI ($35)

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    Choate Ruger 10/22 Dragunov stock ($63)

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    Other than $30, is there a real difference?
    Anyone have experience with stocks in general from ATI? Quality?
    Anyone have a suggestion for a better Dragunov stock?
     
  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I put an ATI Monte Carlo on a Mosin Nagant M38. It was fine.
     
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  3. SoL

    SoL New Member

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    in me and my flatmate's arsenal we have BOTH

    I feel that the ergonomics on the ATI are FAR superior to that of the Choate.
    It has much more positive grip and is a bit shorter in terms of pull so you can get it in nice and tight, I used this for my SMG/carbine configuration.
    It is definitely a little bit flexy around the receiver but nothing that a glass bedding doesn't COMPLETELY eradicate.

    The Choate is definitely a lot more solid, it is made of a denser plastic and also retains use of the barrel-band (the ATI only uses the one takedown screw) for extra solidity, though the ergonomics of it just frankly suck.
    The pistol grip is like a vertical bar, totally uncontoured and at a near right angle to the rifle's axis, as well as just being way too goddamned short,
    You are literally jamming your hand between the upper and lower stock rails and even after just a couple of hours I had a blister on the web of my thumb.
    I do like the m1carbine style upper though, quite pretty. It also has a much longer stock than the ATI which kinda harms the "my girlfriend can use this with her little hands" train of thought (unless she is a gibbon with very small palms which, with the current state of the work economy, is probably true).

    I swear by the ATI.

    Most people go NO, CHOATE ISH BETTERER!

    All people I get to compare either meet the choate with indifference or disdain.
     
  4. Gunfan--actic

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    I have a pair of 10-22's, one carbine, one stainless with the factory 22" barrel. I have the carbine in a TAPCO T6 currently, but have a Choate folding stock for it and am pleased with it's quality. The stainless is in a Choate Dragonuv, olive drab, with the cheek rest, and I am sticking with that till Bear gets my trigger group reworked, then I am going to a .920 barrel and I'll research stocks then. The Choate Dragonuv, in my opinion, is a pretty good stock. I like Fred Choates detail and quality in his stocks, not to say the ATI's are crap, but to me they dont seem to weigh as much, and dont seem thick enough in critical areas as the Choate .22 stocks. Also, the vertical reinforcement rod at the Choate butt stock allows me to attach a black pouch that fits right between the top and bottom portions of the stock by velcro that holds two plastic containers with 10 rounds, my hearing protection, scope lens cleaning cloths, and the Allen and Torx wrenches to keep things secure. (I use a Torx 25 inch lbs toque driver on the scope rings at the shop when mounting scopes). I use a coupler that connects two factory mags bottom to bottom, a pair of Butler Creek 25rd mags, and a pair of Eagle International 30rd mags.
    I have reworked a Mosin Nagant into a custom sporter in the past and used ATI's camo monte carlo stock for the build and was satisfied with it.
    And Im a fan of the TAPCO T6 for the 10-22, for the extra cash you cant beat it. Leapers came out with a .22 Quad Rail System a few years back, and after careful measuring I used a small square to scribe the marks and removed material from the fore end to fit the Quad Rail to the T6. It is an easy, uncomplicated modification, and I used my right angle die grinder to remove the bulk of the material, then files to get the stock smooth and appear it was made for the rails.
    Here is a pic or 2 of my 10-22 in the Choate Drag. Stock with the accessories I have added to it. It shoots tight 10 shot groups at 75yds around the size of a penny. It has a Limbsaver barrel Deresonator on it, and I swear by these, they absorb any minute barrel vibrations as the bullet travels down and exits the muzzle. I have these on several of my other rifles, including my new Marlin XL7 chambered in 30-06, the 10-22 carbine, an SKS, and I have a couple bull barrel models on hand when the need arises.
    I would go with the Choate stock. I have done alot of business with Choate on stocks, scope mounts, tools, and they have always stood by thier products and provide the best customer service.
     

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  5. Gunfan--actic

    Gunfan--actic New Member

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    CA357: What method did you use to coat your barrel/receiver? Is it paint, or Duracoat? Looks nice!
     
  6. nwrednk

    nwrednk New Member

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    Call me an "old school fart"...

    But, I'm still happy with my 1975 Ruger 10/22 in original condition!:D
     
  7. CA357

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    It's Krylon camouflage paint. It's standing up very well so far and I initially had my doubts.
     
  8. rodent.22

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    I have the ATI Dragonov stock. Superb quality, fit and finish. Price good. After 3 years I'd buy it again.:D
     

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  9. wb_carpenter

    wb_carpenter New Member

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    If you want a folder the Choate folder cannot be beat and much better quality than butler creek.

    As far as dragonov stocks I liked the ATI.
     
  10. Hesher420

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    I see you have a scope on there now, but, have you shot it with that stock, using the steel sights? Is the height of the stock good for using the sights?
     
  11. PTsouthpaw

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    I have the Choate Dragunov stock on my 10/22. I have zero complaints about this stock. I have not personally handled the ATI stock, but i preferred the aesthetics of the Choate. Even with the higher price, I was impressed with the durability and density of the plastic on the stock. I did have to remove a bit of material to get the magazine to drop freely, but this is simple and I would rather do some fitting than have huge gaps. The 1" stock spacer is perfect for me, and I was able to add a bit of lead inside it to try to counter my 20" bull barrel. I can't say that the ATI is not a better deal, having no experience with it, but I am a satisfied owner of the Choate.
     
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  12. rodent.22

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    Hesher I have had some serious eyesight issues and have gone to reddot sights. I have had it scoped since I got the ATI stock. The rear sight flips up high enough to see over the stock, so I don't think height is a problem. My barrel has been shortened with a flash hider so no front sight.:D
     
  13. CourtJester

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    I went to a local shop when I was looking around and picked up a Dragunof to see how it felt. It was okay but still lacking a little bit.
    They happened to also have a Fajen also. It felt way more comfortable and is a totaly adjustable to fit whatever your size. That's what I ended up with and love it.


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  14. Gunfan--actic

    Gunfan--actic New Member

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    Rodent.22-And how tall is your scope mount? Can you get a sight picture with optic sitting way up there? Nice looking rifle, and optic. What brand/model are you using? Thanks for sharing it with us.
     
  15. Hesher420

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    Alright, I've picked up a BARELY used 10/22 from a guy at work. Got a great deal on it @ $150. Also, I was at a local gun show yesterday and was able to handle another one with the Choate stock on it. That's the one I'll be getting. I love the feel of it! I'll put up pics once I get it built.