1/9 twist...what can I stabilize?

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by CaseyChadwell, Oct 16, 2009.

  1. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    I am planning on deer hunting with my AR 15 this year. I think that I have heard that a 62 grain bullet is the heaviest you could use in a 1/9 twist rifle. I found some 69 grain BTHP cheap (Remington ammo 50 for 29.99). It is match grade ammo and I was wondering if my AR with the 1/9 twist would be ok out to 100 yards?

    As always, any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    Not touching this one with a 10 foot pole....... sorry. :rolleyes:
     

  3. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    Firing 62gr SS109s from mine, I have no accuracy or stability problems out to 200 yards. YMMV.

    You should be fine.

    (As to the quality of the ammo or efficacy of an AR on deer...that's another issue. :))
     
  4. Txhillbilly

    Txhillbilly Active Member

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    Casey,The 69gr might not stabilize with a 1-9 twist,you could try a box and see if your barrel will shoot them.
    But 69gr BTHP Match bullets are not for hunting game,they don't expand on impact,and shouldn't be used.They are designed for target shooting,not hunting.
    Your best bet would be getting a 62gr soft point bullet,and I personally wouldn't hunt deer with this small of weight bullet.
     
  5. 1919A4

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    Know that many states will not allow the .223 for deer hunting.

    It's a poor choice of caliber regardless, IMHO. One should always use the right tool for the job.
     
  6. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    I knew when I posted this thread that I would have people say that I shouldn't hunt with a .223/5.56NATO. However, in the past I have had wonderful results with using that round on deer here in Kentucky. My farthest shot was a hair under 100 yards and the deer dropped in its tracts with a hole through the shoulder. I know that many of you think that I am being irresponsible or unethical by using that round, but I think it is more than enough when you choose your shots correctly.

    However, with that said, I did not know that the BTHP would not expand very well. That being said, I will be choosing something else. I found some 62 grain Federal Fusions that according to their website is the cat's behind small caliber deer hunting. I will be purchasing a box of those in the next couple of days.

    As for the .223 for deer, I think that it is more than enough bullet to stop a whitetail dead in Kentucky. I will wait for the perfect shot, and that to me is a neck or head shot. If my AR will not shoot well enough for me to take those shots, I will use the Savage that is in the other room.

    Sorry if I have offended some with my views.
     
  7. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    IMHO one of the best bullets in a .223 for thin skinned game is the Winchester 64 gr Power Point. It is accurate, heavy enough, and reliably expands. It is not a target or varmint bullet. It is my ONLY choice for my duty rifles. My 1/9 barreled gun will shoot 60 shot groups at 100 yards of 1 1/4". Yes 60 shots, two full mags. That is consistancy.
     
  8. M14sRock

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    Robo is right. That 64gr is accurate for me as well.

    Also, the Barnes TSX is now avail factory loaded with a 62gr. It can be had in the CorBon DPX line.

    I don't think any hunting bullets compare to the TSX. As long as they shoot well for you.
     
  9. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    Thanks robocop...I will be getting the power points if you have so much confidence in them. If you trust our life with the, I will trust taking a 75 yard neck shot on a whitetail. Thanks for the input.
     
  10. FCross7

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    I don't know about the .223 Power-Point, but I use .308 150 gr Power-Point in my AR-10 for hunting. And just for reference, if Robo says something, you can trust it.

    -Fred
     
  11. KingTiger

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    These guys have a good selection of .223 hunting ammo. I'm going to be deer hunting with my AR, along w/other calibers, also this year. I ordered some of their 70 gr. TSX for my 1:8 twist RRA. I haven't had a chance to shoot any yet, but I get excellent accuracy with 68 gr. BTHP, but as already mentioned, it's not hunting ammo. It's all about shot placement (neck).

    5.56 ammunition, 556 ammo, .223 nato, ammunition, manufacturer, for sale, in stock, combat
     
  12. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    Well... I shot the 69 grain bullets today at 100 yards. The projectiles did not yaw and they seemed to shoot fairly accurate (as accurate as they could be with a 1X sight). I shot them into some homemade ballistic gel that a friend of mine made, and the BTHP did not expand very well at all. I will not shoot deer with them (I decided against it when another member told me that they would not expand). The 55 grain Federal shells that I got seem to do fine in the gel, I think I will use those for yotes, as far as deer go, I am going to get another 7mm-08 and use that. The 55 grain shells opened up a lot but there was not a lot of penetration.

    Thanks for all the help with the ammo selection. I think that I will be going coyote hunting in the morning. Wish me luck.
     
  13. RMTactical

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    It depends. Some 1/9 barrels will shoot up to 77gr ammo. Some will not shoot anything past 70gr ammo well. Every barrel is a little different.
     
  14. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    best thing to do is try the ammo your going to use before you actually use it on an animal in a hunting situation. whichever weight you choose it should be a hunting round as in a soft point core locked type bullet that wont break apart in the target. these are commonly available to people who load their own than can be found on the shelf.

    .223 is a fine caliber for white tail. people hunt them with bows and arrows and handguns as small as .357 magnum and rifles as small as 30 carbine just fine.

    the only problem is using military bullets and target bullets which are the most common rounds and tend to break apart shedding pieces when used on an animal.
     
  15. Gus556

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    I do not use .223's as my primary hunting round though I have taken 2 deer with my AR using 62gr Sierra soft points. I prefer something that will undoubtedly drop them like a .308, .30-06, or even .300 Win Mag for longer shot options (depending on where I go hunting).