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Meanwhile in South Africa

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#1 · (Edited)
For those who havent heard there is a huge problem in SouthAfrica with Boer Farmers being attacked and murdered (usually after lengthy torture.)

The ANC Gov't claims these are random attacks and not a campaign of genocide against the white minority.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...e/news-story/3a63389a1b0066b6b0b77522c06d6476

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"LAST month, British woman Sue Howarth and her husband Robert Lynn were woken at 2am by three men breaking into a window of their remote farm in Dullstroom, a small town in the northeast of South Africa, about 240km from the nearest capital city.
The couple, who had lived in the area for 20 years, were tied up, stabbed, and tortured with a blowtorch for several hours. The masked men stuffed a plastic bag down Mrs Howarth’s throat, and attempted to strangle her husband with a bag around his neck.
The couple were bundled into their own truck, still in their pyjamas, and driven to a roadside where they were shot. Mrs Howarth, 64, a former pharmaceutical company executive, was shot twice in the head. Mr Lynn, 66, was shot in the neck.
Miraculously he survived, and managed to flag down a passer-by early on Sunday morning. Mrs Howarth, who police said was “unrecognisable” from her injuries, had multiple skull fractures, gunshot wounds and “horrific” burns to her breasts.
“Sue was discovered amongst some trees, lying in a ditch,” writes Jana Boshoff, reporter for the local Middelburg Observernewspaper. “Her rescuers managed to find her by following her groans of pain and then noticing drag marks from the road into the field.
“Her head was covered with a towel. Her eyes were swollen shut. She was partially clothed with just scraps of her shirt remaining. Her breasts and upper body was bloody. The plastic bag, shoved down her throat, took some effort to remove because her jaw was clamped down tightly.
“How she managed to breathe with the bag in her throat remains a mystery. One of her rescuers later recalled how Sue was unresponsive except for the constant groaning. Whilst the man ran back to the road to see if an ambulance has not arrived yet, she managed to curl one of her arms around her breasts in a last attempt to protect herself.”
She was rushed to hospital and placed on life support, but died two days later. Due to her British nationality, her murder attracted an unusual amount of overseas media attention.
Official statistics on farm attacks are non-existent, due to what human rights groups have described as a “cover-up” by the notoriously corrupt — and potentially complicit — South African government.
The most reliable numbers are released by the Transvaal Agricultural Union, which represents commercial farmers, and civil rights group AfriForum.
According to the TAU, last year there were 345 attacks resulting in 70 deaths — the highest death toll since 2008. In 2015 there were 318 attacks resulting in 64 deaths, and the year before there were 277 attacks resulting in 67 deaths.
In total, between 1998 and the end of 2016, 1848 people have been murdered in farm attacks — 1187 farmers, 490 family members, 147 farm employees, and 24 people who happened to be visiting the farm at the time.
While South Africa has one of the highest rates of violent crime anywhere in the world, the attacks on white farmers are no ordinary crimes.
In a 2014 report, “The Reality of Farm Tortures in South Africa”, AfriForum wrote that “the horror experienced during farm tortures is almost incomprehensible”.
“People of South Africa, where you see a beautiful land, take it, it belongs to you,” Malema was quoted in The Telegraph as telling parliament.
Perhaps in response to populist pressure from Malema, Zuma earlier this month called for the confiscation of white-owned land without compensation. Zuma urged the “black parties” in the parliament to unite to form the two-thirds majority that would be needed to make the necessary change to the country’s constitution.
Last week, during a debate in parliament about the farm attacks, an ANC MP shouted “Bury them alive!” while MP Pieter Groenewald was speaking about the plight of white farmers."



Look at this little Gem:




What's especially ominous about this picture is that these guys dont look like the dirt poor and illiterate robbers you correctly expect to see in the 3rd world.

Their excellent tacticool clothing in good state of repair, the way they hold their firearms, even from the still pic you get the sense these are not criminals furtively moving/looking out of fear of getting caught by the police. They seem to act like they own the place.. Oh and the $250,000 dollar cellphone jammer kinda gives it away too who they are...They are a state sponsored Death Squad.

Don't think it can happen here?
Think just 50 years in the future and then think again.
Maybe now the anti-AR15 campaign by certain quarters , a firearm that has almost no criminal activity, makes more sense...
 
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#3 · (Edited)
What's really amazing is that the mainstream media and leftists who are usually bleeding hearts over any real or imagined atrocity are completely silent on this.

Maybe they feel too much kinship with their ideological brethren in the ANC who are the likely perpetrators of this?

Its very difficult for the Boers to escape SouthAfrica since they are not a recognized refugee class.
A West African country , I think it was Nigeria .. but am not sure, may have been Cameroon too, made a program to recruit them to come and gave them land under favorable loan conditions because they are such a great productive minority to have. And it's been a great success but it may have closed.

If it gets any worse I would not be surprised at all if Putin does something similar.

But I expect nothing out the the human garbage that constitutes the Dutch Government (the primary origin country of the Boers some French and German admixture is also there though)
 
#5 ·
There is so much going on in the world...evil in this world and if not for the internet, I would not know anything about it. In fact, I still think overall the world is a much safer place but there are places, like this South Africa story, the middle east, Chicago, Baltimore etc...that are absolute krapholes. I always ask myself...what would the US do if these murders happened in TX? or Rockets were launched from Mexico into Los Angeles? The media and leftist forces in this country are complicit to these actions when they don't do their job. Horrible situation
 
#29 ·
Was just pointing it out was all Bluez. Had I been the one to start the thread, I would have felt it to be a good fit for the Concealed Carry and Personal Protection subforum.

I do agree that it is kind of hard to really pick where it should go. I had to mull it over for a bit to come up with CC&PP, as it would have also fit in training and Safety (Situational Awareness), CC&PP (Being ready for anything, in this case, home invasion) or even PR&C (Politics, events of the past, and hpow they affect the current situation there.)

Not an easy call my friend.
 
#8 ·
When the majority took over, did anyone seriously doubt that this was going to happen???

My only surprise was how long it took.

Look at the massacres of whites in Rhodesia the day after the blacks took control.
Lived in Rhodesia for 3 years when I was a kid... Moved back stateside in 1975. We traveled alot while there. Many times over the years I've wondered what it would have been like if we had stayed. Yeah, it became very dangerous for anyone who was white when that POS Mugabe took over. Sad thing is he did NOTHING for his people. There are similarities between Rhodesia and South Africa... Blacks hate and resent whites and their success.
 
#14 ·
I recently received a questionnaire from the federal government which I am required to answer. It is very detailed. Among the questions they want to know if I’m Hispanic. They want to know how many trucks, including pickups, I own. And most troubling of all they want to know how much of the farmland I own is within the boundaries of the Indian reservation. I am a third generation farmer about to hand this place over to a fourth and am wondering about the future security of my home.
 
#17 ·
The description of the attack is horrible.

Maybe there is a lesson here: Treat the present day minority, or disenfranchised majority well, or it may come back to bite you in the future. People have long memories.
 
#19 ·
And the sad part is that the people being attacked in S. Africa probably had nothing to do with oppressing anyone.
The Indians around here were nomadic bands that rarely interacted with one another. Until the government got involved they were not even a tribe much less a nation. But now we have united them, educated them, given them status, and convinced them that they are all victims.
 
#18 ·
What's really amazing is that the mainstream media and leftists who are usually bleeding hearts over any real or imagined atrocity are completely silent on this.
How bout the 11th school shooting happening in America since Jan. 1. How much discussion is going on on this American gun forum about that? I think your complaint is a case of the pot calling the kettle black........

People talk about the incidents that serve their own interests, and ignore others, don't they?
 
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#20 ·
At a time when the US government was opposing communism all over the world, US administrations supported the communist insurgency in South Africa and Southwest Africa.

Yep, Nelson Mandela is a revered South African hero and murderer. Mandela was responsible for the murder of 20 white farm families.

Meanwhile: Folks in Mugabestan are starving because the natives refuse to get off their butts and farm the land stolen from whites.
 
#21 ·
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At a time when the US government was opposing communism all over the world, US administrations supported the communist insurgency in South Africa and Southwest Africa.

Yep, Nelson Mandela is a revered South African hero and murderer. Mandela was responsible for the murder of 20 white farm families.

Meanwhile: Folks in Mugabestan are starving because the natives refuse to get off their butts and farm the land stolen from whites.
We’ve seen this before. Whites come in and build infrastructure and an economy. The resentful natives take over and the whole thing falls apart.
 
#22 ·
On a lighter note, a friend of our family wrote a book about his life experiences growing up in Rhodesia and surrounding countries. A great read. Yes this is a shameless plug. Problem is that the book is no longer in print and may be hard to find. It's called "Wet Breams". LOL a funny book title. His name is Bill Taylor.
 
#23 ·
At our core, we are animals. Because we are "intelligent" and our cognitive brains puts us in a unique category, we often forget or deny we are animals and act like animals....and make every excuse under the sun to explain our behavior towards other people. Bottom line is we are pack animals and guard/go on offense when suitable against others not in our 'pack'. The rule of law and associated consequences are the only thing keeping us in check...where those checks don't exist, you see horrific behavior along tribal, ethnic, religious, or whatever criteria defines the 'pack'. Just so happens that something as obvious as skin color happens to be the easiest thing to identify should one think a person of a different color is not in their pack.
 
#27 ·
sad to say, it's probably become just like some of the really bad neighborhoods that most people with some common sense know to give a wide berth to.

sad that this elderly couple died, but maybe they should have gotten out when the getting was good. if they weren't paying attention to the change in government leadership, the lack of control over such criminals, then they were simply being naive and delusional in their thinking.

everyone thinks that when something bad happens to other people, never think it could happen to them, until it does. well it happened to these people and sadly, they lost their lives because of it.
 
#30 ·
On a trip to Alaska, I cut my leg rather badly and had occasion to "visit" a Canadian Hospital in the Yukon. MY E.R. Doc was a South African doctor who filled me in on South African affairs. His family has been in Africa since the 1600's and he considers himself "African" - more so than many black people now in control. He said the biggest problem is from outsiders, not South Africans. If left alone, he said the problems could have been solved. He also said the savagery he deals with in South African Emergency rooms is probably unimaginable to western doctors. "Drunken people there fight with machetes." He rotated between S.A. and Canada. BTW - My bill for E.R., stitching up, etc. was $650. An E.R. visit alone here is over $1,500 - without treatment. If I had been a citizen of Canada, it would have been free.
 
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