We have a very well fed coyote near my house, thing is huge. I was talking to my "expert" boss, he's an expert in everything, just ask him... about how a suppressed 300 blackout would me a good choice in a neighborhood. He suggested that anything over .223 would blow right through the yote and probably not even stop it.
I've dropped Yotes with .223 and 30.06. Got him thru the shoulder with the
'06, he dropped like a sack of rocks. The closest Coyote I've ever bagged
was 140 yards. So I would consider something with legs on it. I would not advocate hunting in the tight building confines of a residential neighborhood.
If you have major concerns about the round going clean through and becoming an issue in your area. You might want to think about a 22-250. With good Hollow Point Varmint Loads and at 3810 FPS the bullet is devastating to Yotes and will blow up shortly after entry with considerable devastation!
Not to mention the great trajectory and accuracy of the round.
I used a 444 Marlin... it blew through it and opened him up. Most definitely stopped it. There's no "too big". There ARE wrong bullet selections. E.g. don't use full metal jacket bullets. Use Soft points, hollow points, or varmint tipped bullets.
Are you concerned about noise? Ricochet? A wounded coyote staggering to the neighbors yard and dying?
If noise: a 300 blackout or well placed subsonic .22 would be top choices.
Ricochet concerns: 17hmr
Wandering wounded: 17hmr or higher and judicious shot placement with proper bullets.
I dropped one a few years back with Hornady .243 115 gr. bullet. He was maybe 125 - 135 yds. He never took another step after the round hit him. (Only damn thing I saw that Deer season too)
My favorite gun for called in coyotes is an over-under .22 Hornet/20 gauge shotgun. Have killed coyotes graveyard dead with the .22 Hornet to 200 yards. The number 4 buckshot kills good to 50 yards.
If it is in your yard, in a residential area, I'd use a .22 short...it will kill any dog/coyote with a chest shot...won't drop him in his tracks but you will never see it again with minimal noise. If you are worried about ricochet, depending on the range, think shotgun too. All sorts of center fire ammo will work and as others have stated a small, high velocity caliber, with a bullet designed to expand rapidly will work. A .223 would be my choice due to the availability and there is ton of 50 grain and below ammo that fits this bill. Another choice or thought would be a 17HMR...same deal, fairly long legs with a small bullet that won't over penetrate and will kill them dead.
I'm not going to shoot this yote, it was just a conversation on using something like a 300, only because of the subsonic and suppressor. My boss claimed that a larger bullet like a 300 wouldn't open up and would blow right through him not stopping him. It sounded like BS, because most of what he claims is BS
Your boss one of them know it all's? My step son is he even said Glock is junk. He was bashing hi-point. He said one day you don't have any issues with your hi-points and you fire them often. I said nope as reliable as a time ex.
Sounds like BS to me too...I have a subsonic 300 and shoot it maybe 1050 fps with a 200-220 grain bullet...I use fmj. It is alot like shooting a standard pistol round...dead on at 50 yrds, one mil dot on .223 scope at 80 yards and three mil dots at 120 yards. That is as far as I have ever shot it. A .30 caliber hole will kill any living creature if it passes through circulatory tissue and it would on a coyote, deer, hog etc at close range with a clean, unobstructed shot.
The bullet is so slow, it likely wouldn't expand much and yes, at short range there likely would be an exit wound on a broad side hit, but a chest cavity hit will kill the animal and not 'blow' through it. I doubt it would exit at 100 yards and definitely wouldn't with a quartering shot...but the animal would still die assuming blood loss from wound.
Nope. Not a bit of truth to your "expert's" info about "anything over .223" blowing right through the yote and probably not even stopping it.
My designated "coyote hunting rifle" is a .22-250. I traded up to a .22-250 from a .223 because I wanted to extend my coyote shooting range a little bit. But the truth is, I've killed one heck of a lot more coyotes while not actually hunting them. Rather I was hunting deer, and carrying anything from a .270 to a 30-06, to a .300 Win Mag, to my beloved .308 Norma Mag. I even killed a coyote once with a .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk. None of those cartridges "blow right through" coyotes without stopping them. That's nonsense.
Now as far as your situation about shooting in your "neighborhood" as you put it, I wouldn't have any idea about that. I can and have shot coyotes off our rear deck, but we live out of town, there a good sized hill on the back part of our place that serves as a backstop, and our neighbors (who aren't very close) are just as likely to shoot coyotes pestering their domestic animals as I am. Besides, it's legal to shoot where we live.
All bullet critter exits are not the same.
FWIW coyotes tear easy.
Varmint bullets might exit.......if so, probably in pieces.
Deer bullets proly stay together.
It all makes sense, and blows holes in mr expert's "opinion".
He tried to convince me that hunting with suppressors had to exceed some db level. When I challenged him to produce the LAW supporting that claim... somebody told him that, and he knew it to be true. Pretty much given up talking anything to do with firearms with him.
My guess is your boss never hunted Coyote. Make him put his money
where his mouth is. When he comes home with a 'yote using his setup,
he'll be a lot more credible. Suppressed 300 Blackout is starting to fade at the
beginning of useful range, for me. But what do I know, I hunt 'yote
year-round.
I shoot all of mine in daylight.
Usually within the first hr of daylight, but some at midday.
They're out and about, but not in the open.
Stay in the woods/brushy draws.
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