Best for indoor/outdoor target? .22lr, .22 magnum or .223 rifles. Do not reload. Used to shoot. Other bore? .222, .221?
if you don't reload, it's hard to beat the rim-fires, but if you do, i'd suggest the 223.Price not a factor. Which best for indoor.outdoor target. .22lr, .22 magnum or .223 rifles. Other?
Depends on the distance to your target, among MANY other things.
I shoot a lot of .22 LR, and some are very good to 50 yards. However, beyond 65-70 yards, most .22 LR drops back into subsonic speeds, which gives the bullet a bit of wobble- and drop increases sharply beyond that point. Winchester and Remington both made great .22 rimfire target rifles. Likewise the European makers- Anschutz and CZ. The 10-22 can be made into a very good target rifle by replacing everything but the buttplate. I have a couple of older Mossberg rifles that will give just about anything a run for the money, including a Mossberg 144 LSB with a 24 X scope.
If you want to go for 300 yards and up, look at .223 centerfire, the .204, 22-250 or my favorite, the venerable .220 Swift.
However, there IS a middle ground- take a hard look at the Savage 93 heavy barrel rifles in .17 HMR. Rimfire, so reloading is a moot point. FAST little spitzer bullets that stay supersonic, have much less drop, and ammo is reasonable (around $14/ 50 rounds) I have one that will group 5 rounds into a quarter inch at 100 yards IF the wind cooperates. 17 grain bullets get pushed around really easy.
If you stay indoors, and stay at 10 meters, you can also look at some of the really good air rifles. The match grade guns can put 5 pellets in one hole at that distance.
Depends on the distance to your target, among MANY other things.
I shoot a lot of .22 LR, and some are very good to 50 yards. However, beyond 65-70 yards, most .22 LR drops back into subsonic speeds, which gives the bullet a bit of wobble- and drop increases sharply beyond that point. Winchester and Remington both made great .22 rimfire target rifles. Likewise the European makers- Anschutz and CZ. The 10-22 can be made into a very good target rifle by replacing everything but the buttplate. I have a couple of older Mossberg rifles that will give just about anything a run for the money, including a Mossberg 144 LSB with a 24 X scope.
If you want to go for 300 yards and up, look at .223 centerfire, the .204, 22-250 or my favorite, the venerable .220 Swift.
However, there IS a middle ground- take a hard look at the Savage 93 heavy barrel rifles in .17 HMR. Rimfire, so reloading is a moot point. FAST little spitzer bullets that stay supersonic, have much less drop, and ammo is reasonable (around $14/ 50 rounds) I have one that will group 5 rounds into a quarter inch at 100 yards IF the wind cooperates. 17 grain bullets get pushed around really easy.
If you stay indoors, and stay at 10 meters, you can also look at some of the really good air rifles. The match grade guns can put 5 pellets in one hole at that distance.
I must thank you all for the input which gives me much to think about!Depends on the distance to your target, among MANY other things.
I shoot a lot of .22 LR, and some are very good to 50 yards. However, beyond 65-70 yards, most .22 LR drops back into subsonic speeds, which gives the bullet a bit of wobble- and drop increases sharply beyond that point. Winchester and Remington both made great .22 rimfire target rifles. Likewise the European makers- Anschutz and CZ. The 10-22 can be made into a very good target rifle by replacing everything but the buttplate. I have a couple of older Mossberg rifles that will give just about anything a run for the money, including a Mossberg 144 LSB with a 24 X scope.
If you want to go for 300 yards and up, look at .223 centerfire, the .204, 22-250 or my favorite, the venerable .220 Swift.
However, there IS a middle ground- take a hard look at the Savage 93 heavy barrel rifles in .17 HMR. Rimfire, so reloading is a moot point. FAST little spitzer bullets that stay supersonic, have much less drop, and ammo is reasonable (around $14/ 50 rounds) I have one that will group 5 rounds into a quarter inch at 100 yards IF the wind cooperates. 17 grain bullets get pushed around really easy.
If you stay indoors, and stay at 10 meters, you can also look at some of the really good air rifles. The match grade guns can put 5 pellets in one hole at that distance.
I agree with you on the Savage bolt-action 22s. I have a Savage MKII FV-SR and it's a real tack driver. Very accurate at 50 yards. Best ammo I've shot through it is CCI SV.For outdoor shooting i've use my savage .22lr rifle, it's a fine shooting rifle. In generally, most bolt-action .22's will out shoot a stock 10/22 carbine.
Another thing to keep in mind is ammo. Most suggest trying a number of different circles to see which your rifle likes best. My advice would be to buy a case of the same amount after you find it.
i have to agree. it's hard to beat the accuracy of the Savage rim-fires for accuracy given the prices they go for. i love mine. damned accurate as a laser!I agree with you on the Savage bolt-action 22s. I have a Savage MKII FV-SR and it's a real tack driver. Very accurate at 50 yards. Best ammo I've shot through it is CCI SV.
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I've also had a few problems with extraction of spent shells. Even with the CCI SV rounds. I'm wondering if it has something to do w/the new 10-round magazine I bought.Alaskan; Yours looks almost identical to mine. I made a kydex comb for mine and it is carrying the Nikon 3-9. I am having a problem with mine though. It does not like Winchester M22 subsonic 45 grain black copper plated for suppressors. It wont always extract them. No problem with other brands. Extractor looks fine and it is clean.
Maybe that's the problem I'm having w/CCI SV since they're not copper plated. ?????I was using a 5 round mag. I have 10's and have had no problems until the Winchesters. The copper plating is supposed to stop the leading issues with the suppressors. CCI has a subsonic or SV copper plated segmented round I would like to try. I have not tried it on the 10's but the 5 will load and feed shorts.
It just keeps the leading down in the suppressor. Does not really affect the rifle. I use the CCI SV's too.Maybe that's the problem I'm having w/CCI SV since they're not copper plated. ?????