Your thoughts for a noob on gun safes.

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by charliegirl, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. charliegirl

    charliegirl New Member

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    Hi guys, as some of you know, I'm in the process of getting a few hand guns and part of that is deciding whether or not to get a safe. I have no children, nor do I plan to ever have any. Also, children rarely, if ever, come to my house. My primary reason for getting hand guns is for protection. My plan is to keep a pistol by my bedside (that one will be my CC), one stashed downstairs and one stashed in the garage. That being said, is it odd to not want a gun safe? I'm sure there is something I am overlooking, which is why I'm bringing this to the forum.
     
  2. Dennis845

    Dennis845 New Member

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    I'm going to take the liberty and assume you are a young person. I will also assume your interest in guns will expand during your life time to maybe include hunting, trap, skeet, target shooting, etc. Most people will accumulate many valuables they don't want stolen or lost in a home fire (mortgage papers, jewelery, tax documents, pictures, coin, cash, etc.). A good safe is piece of mind especially when you're not at home. A residential safes primary purpose is to prevent smash & grabs and/or give you a limited amount of time of fire protection if the model you selected has it. Rule #1 in purchasing a safe is; buy one at least twice the size as you think you need. They're are many good brand names to select from, depending on budget. A decent quality safe will set you back about $1,500.00. Of course you can spend much less, depending on the level of protection you desire. The models I looked at were Patriot Safes, Liberty Safes, Browning Safes, Ft. Knox Safes and a couple of lesser known ones. I eventually found a Liberty Fat Boy safe on sale and purchased it. No regrets. Because of my eye sight and access speed, I had the tumbler lock changed out to the e-lock. Quick and snappy to access the contents. Good luck.
     

  3. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    A lot of the decision depends on crime in your area. Are there a lot of home burglaries where you are?

    Also, he raises a good point.....are you enough of a fan that your inventory is liable to grow?
     
  4. Jay

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    I too, bought a Liberty Safe. It has a 45 min fire rating at 1200 degrees, weighs 710 pounds, and is bolted to a concrete floor. I insisted on a manual combination lock. Statistically, the electronic combination locks are much more trouble prone than the manual ones, and I would hate to need access to my safe and be foiled by a dead/dying battery. Obviously, a personal preference, but that's mine. Buy as large a safe as you can possibly afford.
     
  5. sweeper22

    sweeper22 New Member

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    Eventually...anyone with an expanding firearms collection should own a decent safe. After all, that's basically an expanding hard asset/investment.

    I need to add a safe myself in the near future. Until you take this step, I'd recommend reviewing your homeowner's insurance. And if you're a renter, be aware that you can add basic renter's insurance onto most auto insurance policies for just $10-15/month. That's a lot of peace of mind for $150/yr.
     
  6. Chainfire

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    A decent safe will keep most of the crooks out of you stuff. The best safe won't keep the pros out of you stuff. If a man has an hour and a Sawzall, he can get into most safes, but most thieves do not want to spend an hour in your house.

    My gun safe houses my wife's jewelry, important documents and my favorite firearms. It makes me feel better when I am not home. That is worth the expense to me.
     
  7. Marthor

    Marthor New Member

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    I recently got a gun locker (not a safe) just to keep kids locked out.

    Unless you bolt down your safe, the robbers could just wheel it out easily if they are prepared at all for stealing safes.
     
  8. Sniper03

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    A safe is a great thing to have and a piece of mind when you are gone from home. There are many good safe manufacturers out there. Liberty, Browning, Champion and others. Depending on your location regarding stairs on the level you probably would not need a gigantic safe. But I would recommend a decent size safe that is fireproof for a specified period and certainly heavy enough that two thugs could not pick it up and carry it out the door. I have a large safe and empty it weighs well over 1000 lbs. and will hold around 50 guns.It is a Champion and I like it very well. Also read up on safes and the best locking bolt systems. Some are good and some are marginal and can be easier to enter. But for your use I would say maybe a 20 gun safe would do the job and give you some room to grow. As one had mentioned before they are also good for keeping your valuable papers, jewelry and other items in. Regarding keeping a weapon in various locations around the house, garage and other areas. That is not a bad idea as long as they would be hard to find with you knowing the exact location.
    A weapon would not do you any good in a safe if you were to need it while in the garage for example. Good Luck!

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  9. charliegirl

    charliegirl New Member

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    There are increasingly more home invasions in the area I live in (which is somewhat odd because I live in a wooded, rural area with only two ways out - one north, the other south). But also, my place of work moved to a new building and has some real creepers that hang out in the parking garage. So, I've got two reasons really pushing me to do so. I've always had plans of getting a gun or three. So, yes, I can definitely see owning more than one gun down the road.

    Thanks for the brand names on safes!
     
  10. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher

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    I picked up a Liberty Centurion from Gander Mountain earlier this year for $600 on sale. It's rated 45min for fire. I'd recommend you consider one. Smash and grab type burglaries have been on the rise in our neighborhood, so I figured it was time to become a "responsible" gun owner.
     
  11. charliegirl

    charliegirl New Member

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    Not a young person anymore. (32yrs) Guess I'm just late in the gun game!

    And yes, my interest will expand. It already has and I haven't even made my first purchase yet. (I'm in the research/education phase.)
     
  12. boatme98

    boatme98 New Member

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    Of course you are, Grasshopper.
    After your head says your needs are fulfilled, the heart will answer, "not yet, sucker"!
    You are going to need someplace to keep your next ten pieces. :D
     
  13. partdeux

    partdeux New Member

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    is 30 minute fire rating adequate? Looking at both 30 minute and 60 minute, and the 60 minute one cost's twice as much.
     
  14. OC357

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    Build a false wall in your closet/house. Depending on the materials used it can be fireproof. Then don't tell/show anybody (except your significant other of course..) Good thing for hunting rifles/shotguns that you don't use much and ammo, cleaning stuff etc.

    Any handgun you use should live in a holster not far from you like you mentioned and not be locked up somewhere or in a garage.

    Just some thoughts. Other opinions may vary.

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  15. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher

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    I figure that a fire rated safe is "good" to have, but in reality, I figure the insurance will be buying me new guns if I have a fire. I'll miss my grandfather's and great-grandfather's shotguns, but everything else is easily replaced.
     
  16. JonM

    JonM Moderator

    a major reason to get one is if you go on vacation your not gonna want to leave em all laying about. the wife and i keep one long gun out and each of us have a pistol out everything else is in the safe.
     
  17. Jay

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    I don't know about other safe manufacturers, but If your safe is damaged in a break-in attempt, or is damaged by fire, Liberty will replace it.
     
  18. bogcjg

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  19. FAS1

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    If you are talking about a first handgun that you keep handy for home defense there are some secure options like this. Bolted to something solid it is pretty secure as well as being hidden if you choose. Once your collection grows I would consider a gun safe that is decent quality that will protect against fire as well. You will need to spend a little money for that though, but worth it as your collection grows.

    [ame=http://youtu.be/CcJUGuB35y8]FAS1 SAFE - YouTube[/ame]