The Importance of Staking

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by MikeJK, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. MikeJK

    MikeJK New Member

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    Just got back from a 1 day carbine course. It was a lot of fun and a great learning experience/ motivator.

    First thing this morning the instructor had us confirm zero. When I went back to my gear to top off my mags my receiver extension rotated as I sat the rifle down. I looked closer and noticed the castle nut was trying to back off. Good thing I keep an AR multi tool in the range bag.

    My day was almost ruined. It would have been embarrassing as hell. Thankfully it was caught before backing off to far sending springs and detents went flying.

    Moral of the story, STAKE.

    Oh yeah, take a damn class. You'll learn a lot about yourself and your gear.
     
  2. Duck4Glocks

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    How much did the class run yah.
     

  3. MikeJK

    MikeJK New Member

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    $65 then maybe $100 in ammo. Not bad for a day of shooting and instruction. Don't forget the networking value.
     
  4. BenLuby

    BenLuby New Member

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    Must finish getting in shape so I can run and gun...
     
  5. Duck4Glocks

    Duck4Glocks New Member

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    I'm going to try and find someone in my area who does it. I would love to do something like that.
     
  6. MikeJK

    MikeJK New Member

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    Do it, it is a great experience. Just make sure your gear is straight. One kid kept having issues and it was frustrating him.
     
  7. Fixer

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    Staking is only needed when you dont have the time to properly inspect and maintain your firearm...as in Military or remote locations where tools become burdensome.

    Every firearm will loosen up with use. Its up to the user to maintain that firearm. The onbly time I staked was when I was in the military. Now that I am a civy, I just maintain my weapons as I needed. Loctite + elbow power will keep any Castle Nut solid throughout a few thousand rounds. Proper Torque is all that is needed on the Gas Key Bolts. I have used the same BCG without staking for over 10,000 rounds. I check it every time I go into a big cleaning, about 2,000 rounds or so.

    YMMV Every part not held by a pin and even those can come loose.
     
  8. MikeJK

    MikeJK New Member

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    I've always been athletic but am in the worst shape of my life. There were a couple large/ slow guys. The instructor stopped the class at one point to remind people to train like they'd fight. After a couple F-bombs and a few move w/ a purpose glares everyone was tracking.

    I'd rather have a stacked nut then carry a wrench. As in my case it was good when I left but after a few rounds worked it's way loose at the worst moment. It could come loose your in 10 rounds or 3k you never know. Doing it right is the better path. Solid for good is better than solid for a while. Less worry less exertion.
     
  9. BenLuby

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    My idea of athletic, over the last few years, is getting up from my desk to get a cup of coffee and not having it brought to me. I've turned into a pencil pusher who's built like a damned Who from Whoville and don't know when the fat snuck up on me.
     
  10. MikeJK

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    LOL. I went from a 170 lb. construction worker working 60 hrs. a week and training MMA religiously to being a 197 lb. F/T student who spends most of his time behind a laptop and taking notes. It's a shock to they system when you go from one to the other but your caloric intake remains the same. Just get out and do it.
     
  11. BenLuby

    BenLuby New Member

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    I am. Going to the gym again tomorrow night.
     
  12. MikeJK

    MikeJK New Member

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    Do you have a bike? I hate working out but a bike makes exercise a bit more fun. Load up and find a local scenic trail that's bike friendly.
     
  13. Chandler51

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    Amen...I've gone from 6'2 and 220 lbs to 258 lbs. I am ashamed of myself. And, at age 41, every day that passes makes it more difficult to get started.

    One day maybe...
     
  14. Duck4Glocks

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    I got married a year ago. For the last 6 years I've been working a job where I walk all day with heavy hospital equipment and work about 45-50 hours a week. I stayed at 215 for for 6 years and since I got married a year ago I went from 215 to 250. I don't know what happened. But I need to loose this weight. I'm only 5'9" and the 35 pounds has taken its tole on me. It's hard to go to the gym when you have no energy after work.
     
  15. MikeJK

    MikeJK New Member

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    And it's boring as hell ;)
     
  16. Duck4Glocks

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    I enjoy working out. I started before I was in high school and played football in high school. So j worked out for a long time. Then I got lazy and just haven't gone back.
     
  17. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Im 6'1, 40 yrs old , I do ride a Mt bike and just recently quit racing BMX bikes with my kids due to bad knees , When I was racing 2 yrs ago I got down to 205 # from 235 I felt great every day wasnt tired all the time . Since not racing I have put some back on 225# I sure would love to get back down to 205 and stay there but my metabolism isnt the same as it was 5 yrs ago and it doesnt help I sit behind a desk 5-6 days a week .
    I wish I could find a carbine course around here in IL . I would go it would be alot of fun Im sure
     
  18. ScottA

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    How difficult is it to get the castle nut off if you stake it? And would it make sense to use something like Locktite instead?
     
  19. Todd_

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    If locktite was the answer, people would do just that. It seems like it doesn't hold up over time and through large numbers of rounds, so that's why people stake.
     
  20. purehavoc

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    Its not hard to stake stuff and its not hard to remove it either . I use a punch to stake the castle nuts , it provides just enough to keep the nut from moving during vibration and recoil . Slight ding into the alum or steel so it protrudes into the cut out on the castle nut .