Purchasing a rifle out of resident state

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by DruidKing, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. DruidKing

    DruidKing New Member

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    Hello,
    I am looking to purchase a rifle in the next few days in either Pennsylvania, or one of the Virginia's or Carolina's. What I would like to know is whether or not my New York State drivers license will prevent me from buy a rifle of my choosing. Would the dealer say: "hey, you have a NYS drivers license and they don't allow this and that to be purchased there, so I won't sell it to you either!" And do rifles have to be shipped to an FFL? I know hand guns do, but maybe not rifles. I don't think I would technically be breaking any laws so long as I register ownership of the rifle within one year. Would maybe gun shows be a better idea? What do you guys think? I know this may be a legal grey area, but I honestly believe my 2nd amendment trumps ANY unjust state laws. Any and all constructive advice is appreciated.
     
  2. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn New Member

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    Federal law does not prohibit purchasing a long gun in a state you do not reside in.

    You need to check your resident state's laws prior to the purchase, some states may prohibit such transactions.
     
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  3. gunsmoke11

    gunsmoke11 New Member

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    I'm a NYS resident and have purchased several used long guns in Pa. from a gun store over the past several years. They take into consideration if the gun you wish to purchase is legal to possess specifically where you live. As an example, NYC has a plethora of guns that are illegal to possess there, but are legal on Long Island and the rest of the state. If the rifle's legal where you live then they'll sell it to you.;)
     
  4. FFL01user

    FFL01user New Member

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    It's obvious from your post that you're looking to buy a black rifle as you mention the registration requirement. It is legal for a person to buy a long gun in a state other than their state of residence provided the laws of both state are met and the purchase must be from a dealer. That said, with the new laws in NY, you cannot legally purchase a black rifle. You missed the boat. With the new laws in NY you'll be lucky to find an out of state dealer that will sell you slingshot.
     
  5. ResidentialPyro

    ResidentialPyro New Member

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    If they do sell you a slingshot don't carry more then 7 rocks in your pocket!
     
  6. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    If I was running a gun shop and someone walked into my shop with a license from anywhere in the northeast I would send them packing. I am not going to law school to sell a gun.
     
  7. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Why buy an AR-15 when you can only have 7 shot magazines? No one is even making these as yet. It is my understanding that all magazines in New York state over seven rounds must disposed of by the owners.:eek:
     
  8. FFL01user

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    Until 4/15 it is legal in NY to sell / purchase 10 round magazines. After that magic date 10 round magazines become illegal, but those owned prior to the magic date will be grandfathered in. But, they can only be loaded with 7 rounds unless one is shooting at a range and/or in competition.
     
  9. longunner

    longunner New Member

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    If you live in New York you can't buy any "scary looking" guns becAuse of our good friend cuomo :mad:
     
  10. gunsmoke11

    gunsmoke11 New Member

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    I want to clear up some misconceptions about this new BS law that NY'ers have to fight. There will be a number of changes before it goes into effect. As of now they're giving residents until April of 2014 to dispose of their hi cap mags, or have them permanently altered. That 7 rd number was a lot of garbage and that'll be changed probably to 10 rounds. I have no idea what will happen concerning those that were previously grandfathered in that exceed 10 which most of us have. They will also want those AW's that were grandfathered in in 2000 to be registered and then probably confiscated. I should have told Druidking that no rifle would be sold to a NYC resident, because it must be registered there and it would have to be sent to an FFL holder.
     
  11. Mosin

    Mosin Active Member

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    It will depend on the store owner as well. I was REFUSED a sale of a Mosin Nagant in Maine because I had a South Carolina drivers license. He cited Massachusetts law as the reason he wouldn't sell to me. He said it wasn't worth the hassle.
     
  12. DruidKing

    DruidKing New Member

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    Hey, I just want to clarify, I am New York state resident, but I don't live in NYC. So I don't have that monkey on my back. What I really would like to buy is not necessarily an AR, but a rifle with a pistol grip, and preferably something more powerful than a measly .22. And as I think a out it, would a Pennsylvania (or any other state for that matter) really be responsible for ensuring that I was following NYS law? Shouldn't that be my responsibility? And does NYS get to determine what a gun dealer in another state sells? I mean, state laws generally end at the border, no? So again, is it legal for me to buy a rifle of my choosing outside of NYS, that is against NYS law? Also, I just want to point out that as far as I know, the law states that the rifle cannot be purchased in NYS. But it does not say I can not own one, so long as I get it registered within one year. Are there any dealers here who can weigh in on this?
     
  13. gunsmoke11

    gunsmoke11 New Member

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    DruidKing, the Pa. dealer that I've made purchases from is very familiar, or was very familiar with NY gun laws, cause he sells to many from NY. No one will sell you legitimately any rifle with a pistol grip, because pistol grips are one of the items that turns an ordinary rifle into an AW. There is something in the new law that under certain conditions exclude curios, which are guns over 50 years old, from many of the regulations. Copies of these weapons aren't included. But I'm not familiar with all the new regulations.

    The new law is on the internet for all to see. Some companies are now even refusing to ship to NY magazines that are NY legal. We may as well all have smallpox here in NYS regardless of whether, or not you live in the city.
     
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  14. FFL01user

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    So again, the answer is still no.