New .40 wanted opinions?

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by wookie810, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. wookie810

    wookie810 New Member

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    I am looking to buy a new .40 auto. I had a .40 410 S&W a couple years ago and loved how it looked and shot when I first owned it. However I had a couple problems with jamming and took it to the gunsmith who said the plastic guiderods were pos's and that wesson offered a metal one. So I got the metal one and it never shot right again. I love my brother's hi-power but they don't make them anymore and I want a new gun. I also don't want a plastic gun and don't want a gun without a hammer. Doesn't really matter about s/a or d/a. Looking to spend about 600 to 800. Just looking for some people's thoughts on this before making a decision. And ccw use isn't a consideration.
     
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  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Actually, I believe you might be in luck.

    Browning bought the rights back on the Hi Power, and are now producing the Hi Power Mark III . And it even comes in .40 :D

    Or, the more common Browning Hi-Power Standard also in .40

    John Browning's second work of handgun art....

    Happy Birthday to you....

    JD
     

  3. wookie810

    wookie810 New Member

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    that's awesome

    Although more money than I thought I would have to pay. But then again you get what you pay for right?
     
  4. Dillinger

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    That is a true statement. However, find a Browning dealer and see what their cash price is on the unit. Alot of dealers have special pricing that allows them to sell them below MSRP.

    There is a guy in Michigan that I deal with all the time, here is his contact info.

    george@migunslingers.com

    Shoot him an e-mail and see if he can get his hands on one for you. He will give you a great price that includes overnight FedEx to a dealer near your house, unless you are from Michigan, and it will probably be a hundred or so below what any stocking dealer sells it for. George is a good man and always finds me great prices on my sidearms.

    JD
     
  5. wookie810

    wookie810 New Member

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    Right on!

    I do live in Michigan so it is kind of cool it just happens he is located here. I have always bought guns from dealers so I am kind of unsure how the process would go for doing something like that.
     
  6. Dillinger

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    Well, hit George up then, I am sure he can help you, or send you in the right direction to someone that can.

    For future need, should it arise. An internet purchase is fine, but the dealer has to ship the firearm to a licensed dealer near you after he has been paid by you. You would then go to that dealer and "purchase" the gun from the local dealer for a small, one time fee, it's $30-$35 here, and do all the normal paperwork. The local dealer runs the weapon through their books, hence the $30-$35 for paperwork, and you walk out with your new weapon - provided you pass the background check.

    JD
     
  7. wookie810

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    That doesn't even sound that complicated actually.

    Do you have any opinions about the Beretta 90-two? I know that I like the Browning but hate to go with one without shooting a few kind of like test driving a car. And just going in and buying one didn't work out so well last time. My brother has the Hi power mark 3, But I think I like the way the standard looks. Is it really worth the extra money?
     
  8. Dillinger

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    Yes, I do have an opinion of the Beretta's 96 models, the ones that come in .40. But, I don't want to offend any folks on here, so I will just say that you might want to look at the Taurus knock off instead. It's going to be cheaper and it will have a lifetime warranty should something go wrong. :rolleyes:

    I would suggest going to a local range and renting some of the range guns to see what feels good. The only problem will be, I don't know of too many places that stock Hi Power's and units like that.

    As for the Hi Power Mark III or the Standard:

    There aren't too many differences between these two production units. I would imagine there are some subtle internals that are different, but they are not listed. The Standard has adjustable sights and a polished finish. I don't care for adjustable sights on a pistol, I have never seen the true need for them to be honest. As for the finish, well, that is up for debate by the person buying the pistol. On the surface, I don't think they are THAT much different.

    Now, there will be a difference between both these models and the original Hi-Powers, but some of that is good and some of that is not so good, so I wouldn't sweat it. It's the same basic design, it's the same platform, it's the same action and it has been a great pistol for many, many years....

    Outside of that, have you looked at 1911 models? :cool:

    JD
     
  9. BigO01

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    Try looking at a Taurus PT940 , I have around 1,000 rounds through mine and no malfunctions other than a magazine related premature slide lock .

    I marked the mag in after the third malfunction set it aside and the gun has run perfect since .

    This gun can be safely carried if you ever decide to do so with a loaded chamber hammer down safety on or off or you can even carry it in condition one like a 1911 "loaded chamber hammer cocked safety on" .

    I've even fed it quite a few reloads and it just runs and runs .
     
  10. wookie810

    wookie810 New Member

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    I guess I'm kind of leaning towards the hi power. And I haven't shot but a few 1911's (two to be exact) I did really like the high power personally though. I haven't shot any beretta's so anything I know was what the gunsmith talked the gun up to be.
     
  11. tuckinauster

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    *cough* Sig 226 *cough*
     
  12. Mark F

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    If you like the Hi Power... take a look at the CZ75B.


    CZ USA: http://www.cz-usa.com/products_handguns.php
     
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  13. robocop10mm

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    +1 on the CZ or various clones (EAA Witness). I like the feel of the CZ/TZ grip frame. Similar to the HP with less propensity for hammer bite. EAA makes caliber conversions to increase the versitility of the weapon. One frame can be converted into 9mm, .40. 10mm, .45ACP even .38 super.
     
  14. RL357Mag

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    Have you looked at the Beretta Cougar? It's now made by Stoeger and sells for about half what the Beretta version sold for. I believe they are going for $349. I bought the Mini-Cougar about 8 years ago and it is well made and doesn't jam. It's not the most accurate gun, but mine has a shorter barrel than the standard Cougar. Stoeger bought the manufacturing rights from Beretta and the guns are now being produced in Turkey. Check out this months American Rifleman for a review.
     
  15. Dillinger

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    If you like the Hi Power, then I would definitely recommend it as a first choice, but there are others, as have been mentioned. CZ is a great firm - so definitely give them a look.

    One thing to factor in with the Hi Powers, you need to do a magazine disconnect job on it to have a reliable carry and shoot gun. If you dump the mag, for a hot reload, you can't fire it unless you get that disconnect job done. It's a good idea, but it will cost you a little more money on a gun that is already a bit over your expected price.

    Just a thought...

    JD
     
  16. BigO01

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    What JD has above is 100% true but one thing he overlooked in speaking about the Mag disconnect is this .

    If you would ever use said gun as a defensive weapon you would now be sitting in court with a Prosecutor telling a jury you had intentional disabled a primary safety feature of your weapons original design .

    Knowing the quality of some juries I sure wouldn't want them to be truthfully told such a thing because it now makes you look like an irresponsible person with a gun and calls into question every other decision you made especially shooting a person .

    If you doubt what I have just said imagine this , you get in a fatal car crash and you disconnected your vehicles rear brakes intentionaly for some reason , same basic thing in the average persons eyes .
     
  17. Mark F

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    This is a fine piece of lead-throwing machinery. 12+1 capacity in 40 S&W caliber, minimum recoil, and it WILL fire with a dropped magazine. It's super accurate and reasonably priced. I've fired over 1000 rounds of every brand of ammo, and I've never had a single problem.

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    It will safely carry in condition one, and has an ambidextrous safety.

    And if you are wanting to conceal, then the CZ RAMI is a good choice.
     
  18. Dillinger

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    1) - That's a good looking CZ. Nice choice.

    2) - I believe Big may be on to something, but I have never known someone to use a modified weapon like this and have to go to court, so I honestly can't say.

    In the past two years, we have probably had, a total, of 10 or 12 Hi Powers through the shop. One was Brett's own personal weapon that he picked up for his wife. We just don't move many handguns, and we don't usually work on them unless the customer is a good, repeat customer, or they want a custom 1911 built up.

    We have done the mag disconnect on just about all of them, I believe from memory, but you can certainly opt not to have it done.

    Personally I would prefer the option of firing with the mag out, just in case, but to each his own.

    There is the whole "Rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6" rule - but your mileage may vary.

    I am sure that Robo or one of the other current officers could elaborate further.

    JD
     
  19. p4ck37p1mp

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    +1 .. I got one a couple months ago and love it.
     
  20. jeepcreep927

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    I'll throw in a hearty "thumbs up" for the CZ 75B. I think it is the best feeling pistol I own. There is a compact version (not the RAAMI or CZ 101) , built on a steel frame as well.