Mandatory Training?

Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by FatPat, Jul 7, 2011.

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  1. FatPat

    FatPat New Member

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    I did a search on this, and couldn't find any discussion... if it's been discussed or is verboten, just kill the thread.

    Having said that...

    I just read a reply in another thread (where doesn't matter), the basic premise: States that had mandatory training as part of the licensing procedure were better/safer. For me, South Carolina comes to mind. It's the major sticking point for reciprocity between SC and GA.

    Do you support mandatory training? Why? If not, why not?

    My issue with mandatory training is that it's just another measure of control, subject to the abuses inherent in anything "mandated". Owning a gun - carrying a gun, is a right, not a privilge. I personally detest licensure, but that's another argument...

    What say you?
     
  2. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    "We are from the government, and we are here to help you."
    Not interested.
     

  3. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    Manditory training is good in some scenarios, but a waste of time in others. It is in my opinion another way of controlling firearms, and such. It can be good if someone doesn't know anyone who likes firearms or has knowledge about saftey and such, but wants to learn to use them properly and such. My aunt for example was terrified of semi automatic handguns, but she took a saftey course that focused heavily on them, and now she respects them and somewhat likes them. It had a good outcome for her, but she could've just asked me for help -.- . It's has negative effects in that if it's required in order to get a liscense to own a firearm or conceal carry it makes it harder to obtain you right to own/carry a firearm. It might suppose to make the environment safer, but there will always be idiots who improperly treat and use a firearm.
     
  4. Poink88

    Poink88 New Member

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    I support "mandatory" training just because firearms can be dangerous. That said, there should be a way to test for proficiency w/o taking & sitting in the "mandatory" training. For me, training starts as soon as you started using firearms...what you learned/experience over the years should count as part of the "mandatory" training. (yeah I confuse myself too. :D)
     
  5. Firearms4ever

    Firearms4ever New Member

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    Anything that's mandetory in order to obtain or carry a firearm is worthless. All it does is give the government a way to try to make crime/accidents lessen, but it'll always be a problem. There will always be accidents or crime committed regardless of the law. Example: There was a POLICE OFFICER who went on a rampage where I live and killed his ex wife and severly injured a fellow police officer, and no one could stop him, because no one had a liscense to carry a firearm. So as a result it took two officers to finally subdue him by shooting him multiple times.
     
  6. rjd3282

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    Just another infringement. Who pays for the training? If you are poor and can't afford the training does that mean you don't have a right to defend yourself. Not to mention that the government has screwed up everything they touch.
     
  7. Polygon

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    In a perfect world I wouldn't mind this sort of thing. We do not, however, live in a perfect world and the government has proven time and time again that they are interested in controlling the public. They forgot that they're public servants. Not the other way around. Not only that, but they have proven time and again that they do not have the capability to do anything right. Even if they're intentions were good, they would find a way to screw it up.

    So, no. I do not support mandatory training to carry.
     
  8. Gatekeeper

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  9. hydrashok

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    All that said, I believe training should be mandated by PARENTS, not the government. Parents should be teaching their kids firearm safety AND marksmanship. Of course, that means the PARENTS should already know because they should've been taught by THEIR parents.

    Since the majority of today's society has gotten away from this country's heritage, unfortunately, most parents don't have a clue.

    The good news is there is a grass-roots organization to help restore America's hertiage: Project Appleseed Home

    Parents who don't attend with their children are just bad parents.
     
  10. Entelzha

    Entelzha New Member

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    Government mandated training No!
    Individual mandated training Yes!
     
  11. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

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    Dammit!! :(
     
  12. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired

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    If one recognizes the fact that they need to have a firearm, hopefully they will know if they should get the training or not, and how much they need.
     
  13. Yunus

    Yunus New Member

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    Some of you underestimate the stupidity of people. They will get more than just themselves killed given the opportunity.
     
  14. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    So you and the government get to decide who is to stupid to be allowed to defend themselves.
     
  15. JonM

    JonM Moderator

    i voted no.

    not so much because of govt intrusion but because it does no detectable good. studies have been conducted on states that require training vs states that dont and there is no difference in per capita ND or bad shoots. the truth is people so inclined to ccw seek training on their own or are already trained or train on their own. basic weapon safety/handling courses are better than ccw state mandated/state controlled curriculum courses in my opinion.
     
  16. Sniper03

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    Government mandated training other than for the personal carry license is a big NO! No I believe it would just become another political money maker for a party like we presently have in office. Tennessee does have a required course that you must pass in order to receive a personal protection permit. But this is normally done by a certified instructor who normally owns a weapon business here in Tennessee. At least this instructs the person with the correct safety. loading, operation and general cleaning of the weapon. They then issue a Tennessee Conceal Carry License that looks like a Tennessee Drivers License. For those who might care!

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  17. jjfuller1

    jjfuller1 New Member

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    i need to move to tennesee/ hehehe
     
  18. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    NO!

    It is the responsibility of the gun owner to secure training and their risk of liablity should they fail to do so.

    Make it the Governments responsibility and suddenly all ND's will be the Governments fault for failing to provide "proper" training.

    "We're from the Government, and we're here to help".
    The most frightening statement ever uttered!

    Tack
     
  19. Dillinger

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    On the contrary, it's always been a given.

    You can't mandate training, because you have to then have selection criteria that you, I, Cane, Robo, or God help us, Shihan, mind not find relevant to HOW they carry, WHAT they carry, WHERE they carry and the all important WHY THEY CARRY.

    I can't support a mandatory on training because I have been personally instructed in both good, and less than good, practices with all sorts of weapons.

    I feel that being able to carry, and doing so are COMPLETELY different issues. As we have discussed ad nauseum around here.

    Some fit the mental, physical and psychological aspects of being able to carry, and some WANT to carry.

    HUGE difference.

    JD
     
  20. hydrashok

    hydrashok New Member

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    I should have qualified that with "today's parents who don't know..."

    Sorry, Jack. That's not why I think you're a bad parent :D