How Expensive Are Full Auto Weapons?

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by ghostie, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. ghostie

    ghostie New Member

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    I have no experience with full-auto weapons, but caught sight of an ad in a gun mag. The vendor seemed to sell only full-auto guns, but I couldn't believe the asking prices. Something like 16K for an mp5. All of the weapons were priced over their semi-auto counterparts by a factor of 10, it seemed. Does it really cost multiple thousands to get a fully automatic weapon?
     
  2. allmons

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    About 10 times more expensive than they should be

    You are looking at THOUSANDS of dollars at a minimum. Stupid Congress critters voted to allow no new full autos for civilians ( as usual, law enforcement can have whatever they want ).

    So the market place did it's thing, and all full auto's are WAY too high.

    In my estimation, every Congress critter should be fired immediately and NEVER allowed to hold public office again.

    Then, every law since 1967 should be immediately repealed.

    ;)
     

  3. LEO

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    Since May 1986 all Machine guns manufactured are no longer available for civilian purchase. Military and law enforcement only!! A gun that costs $1000 the military or police will cost a civilian $16,000 today.

    There are a limited number of full autos that civilians can buy and each time they sell and change hands... the price will go up.

    Here is a link to show you the average prices over the year.
    http://www.machinegunpriceguide.com/html/subguns.html

    There are some sights on the internet where you can buy an full autos that are brand new. Some other sites you may not know what your going to get.
     
  4. LEO

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    I only wish I could have purchased before or right after the May 1986 ban!!

    Now, civilians have to sell to each other the weapons that were registered prior to the ban and the price goes up each time.
     
  6. BrassMonkey

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    Ditto, but the problem is I was only 7 in 86. If I could I would love a box full of AR15 drop in auto sears, HK sears, and registered UZI bolts :rolleyes: . Sadly the only full auto I could afford is a MAC, or Sten and I really have no interest in them. To the OP if you really want to see expensive check out registered miniguns, or one of the few 249s, or 240s that were registered. Those bastards go for well over $200k.
     
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  7. LEO

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    I was 18 at the time of the ban.... however... I was in the Army making $600 a month and would not have been able to afford any for a few years.

    Then... I never knew that I could own them!! I did not learn I could till about 2003 and then I did not have the money to pay the high prices!

    I had kicked the idea of purchasing one a couple of years back but just could not justify the high cost. Then I checked again this year and saw the price had gone up from $12,000 to $19,000!! Kicking myself in the behind now.

    I read that the price goes up 10-15% every year and that shows true.

    So if anyone is interested... Better knuckle down now and buy one ASAP.
     
  8. HeadShot

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    I am fine with the NFA. My Class III stuff appreciates about 50% per year now. It's my Second Amendment retirement plan.
     
  9. FL Gunner

    FL Gunner New Member

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    If you are law enforcement, and purchase a full-auto weapon that way, is it you who does the purchase or your department? If you can do it yourself, through the department, do you keep it after you retire?


    -Brian
     
  10. LEO

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    As I recall....

    You cannot keep it if it was registered after 19 May 1986. Civilians can only own pre-ban full autos. The ATF would never allow the transfer from the department to you.

    It is possible that the department could buy one with your funds for your use either on and/or off duty but only for the time your on the department. But once you leave... the department gets to keep it.
     
  11. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member

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    Full Auto

    +1 on LEO. A local SO allowed officers to buy Ruger AC-556 rifles back in the 80's. The officer's paid for them but agency was owner of record. The deal they struck was the LEO could keep the rifle til he/she left the agency then had to sell it to another officer with the agency at the original cost.

    Another agency here in TX had a new sheriff take over. His audit found several Class 3 weapons unaccounted for. He wisely called in ATF. ATF tracked the weapons down and got them back from officers that had moved to different parts of the State. ATF soft shoed it in a way they would not likely do for a civilian. No charges, just give it up. All returned to owner agency of record.

    I know of a SO that found a Thompson SMG in a dope house out in the county. Tracked it back to the local PD. They did not even know it was missing. Egg on face to say the least.
     
  12. LEO

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    I can only imagine how many small departments let retired cops keep the FA gun not knowing the law. Those cops that had the FA guns were real lucky they did not get busted.

    I am going to speculate that based on who they are and the fact they were allowed to have it at work....helped them out.

    I carry an M-16 for work and take it home in my personal car. I have no ATF documents at all since it belongs to my department.

    They sell for $16,000 + but my department paid about $800. :rolleyes:
     
  13. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member

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    F/A

    There are a lot of good ole boys in the smaller agencies that seem to think this is still the 1920's and nothing bad will ever happen to them. They are very surprised when Uncle Sugar brings his weight to bear against them. Wake up, you rednecks, this is the 21st century. We are not the law, We enforce the law
     
  14. SabreArms

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    I have always wanted a grease gun, I dont think it will ever happen though:(
     
  15. LEO

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    Grease Gun

    My Class III dealer has a few... I got to check them out.

    I always liked them from seeing them in the war movies. If I had some extra money to spend... I would get one.

    Not many parts to them really.
     
  16. SabreArms

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    Yeah and to top it off I believe they cost $38 to make. That will be the only gun I cant get to complete my Tankers weapons inventory....
     
  17. LEO

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    From the looks of it... $38 sounds about right!

    Cost has gone up a bit since then....
     
  18. SabreArms

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    Yeah last I checked it went up about 7 or 8 THOUSAND dollars. Stupid laws. Those are the epitamy of pray and spray. One of these days when I get to go to a class 3 range I will be sure to get one.

    Got the pistols and the AR, have easy access to the Thompson (semi of course) just need that M3. Am I missing anything for tankers?
     
  19. BLS33

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    Do you guys think it is possible for the laws on machine guns to ever be repealed ? It would be awesome (except for you guy making a killing re-selling them) if they went way down in price, closer to how they used to be back in the day.
     
  20. SabreArms

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    Not without a major overhaul of the government.... I do not necessarily blame the government but I do blame the people. Very sticky subject. Or something DRASTIC would have to happen to relax the laws.

    Would be nice though.