Have my rights been violated?

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by atari101, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. atari101

    atari101 New Member

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    I took a trip to a local Bass Pro shop on Gurnee, IL today. I went to buy a few boxes of 45 GAP and was declined because I'm a Wisconsin resident!!! I thought there was a mistake because I buy & shoot there all the time. I asked for a manager and was told that Bass Pro will not sell handgun ammo to Wisconsin residents because of WI right to carry!!! I'm appalled! I have no idea how this makes any sense!!!
    Any thoughts?
     
  2. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    Gurnee is close to Chicago so they are just as anti gun as Chi-Town but that's BS I would be calling the corporate office and getting some clarification on that!
     

  3. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    *shrug* Thanks for the heads-up on Bass Pro Shop. I won't be giving them any more of my money.

    What they did was dumb, but it is their right to deny service to anyone for any reason. At least, that's the way it works in a free society. Vote with your wallet and buy elsewhere.

    Is it nuts? Sure. Does it make any sense? Nope.

    You might consider writing a very polite note to Bass Pro Shops describing your experience and (again, politely) telling them you won't be purchasing from them until they reverse this inane policy.
     
  4. Yunus

    Yunus New Member

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    No, your rights have not been violated. Their rights have been exercised. If the government told you no, then your rights would have been violated.
     
  5. fmj

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    ^^^THIS^^^

    It also helps if you attach a years worth of receipts from said store to drive home the point.

    I was once told by a walmart greeter that "That thing isnt welcome here, neither are you with it!" (speaking to my cc 1911 that lifted up my shirt for a look around)

    I sent a nasty, yet polite, message to corporate headquarters with my years receipts (for JUST ammo...but there were various and sundry other merchandise on said receipts)...didnt take 3 days for walmart corp. to issue a heart felt apology and sent out a nation wide letter campaign stating "CCW's are always welcome (where legal) in any and all walmart stores. as the leaders of walmart know that CCW makes their stores safe and makes for a safer experience for their patrons.

    I also never saw that particular greeter again....i have to assume he was "relieved of his duties".
     
  6. Ranger-6

    Ranger-6 New Member

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    Businesses reserve the right to sell to those they choose and I reserve the right to not give them my business. In a lot of cases the salesperson is usually caught in the middle trying to make a living.
     
  7. atari101

    atari101 New Member

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    I guess that I wasn't really treated rudely by the staff. I could tell that they were just as uncomfortable telling me this as I was to hear it. I am considering organizing a petition signing against them and mailing it to them with a nice letter. The thing that really got me was that I called their range attendant and he told me that I was allowed to bring my own ammo into the store to shoot (not that I'll go back) and even laughed at the fact that I could still order ammo from them online!
     
  8. wiliardo123

    wiliardo123 New Member

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    Hello
    I do not believe that selling the ammo requires identification or proof of residency.
    I buy all my ammo from bass pro.

    I'm in California and if California allows it then it's a breeze anywhere else. Lol.

    Not familiar with your state laws but I suggest writing a short professional letter to them expressing the past and current situations that you encountered.
    If they respond then jump for joy if they didn't then they simply lost a customer.

    You may also write a review online

    Remember kindness kills better than guns.
     
  9. fmj

    fmj New Member

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    The great gulag known as Sillinoise is as bad or worse than Commiefornia...****cago is the great liberal bastion of the midwest (not to mention a blight on the otherwise pristine shores of Lake Michigan)
     
  10. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher

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    That's nuts.

    I just picked up several boxes of ammo from Cabelas in Hoffman Estates a couple weeks ago. At least one big retailer in the Chicagoland area has some sense about them.
     
  11. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher

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    Google "online petition maker". There are several providers. I'll sign it immediately and I'm sure there are several others here who will jump on it.
     
  12. BigB

    BigB New Member

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    Sounds about right, won't argue about that!!! GO PACK GO ;)
     
  13. fmj

    fmj New Member

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    Will withhold my thoughts on green bay (said the LIONS fan)
     
  14. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member

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    Sounds like an activist manager has made a policy for "his" store. I'll bet it won't be "his" store much longer. Make a stink with corporate and get a positive result. DB's like this must be reigned in and sent packing.
     
  15. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher

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    Here is the email I sent to Bass Pro Shops this evening. I encourage everyone else to do the same.

    This evening, a fellow member of a online forum I participate in posted this message:

    I took a trip to a local Bass Pro shop on Gurnee, IL today. I went to buy a few boxes of 45 GAP and was declined because I'm a Wisconsin resident!!! I thought there was a mistake because I buy & shoot there all the time. I asked for a manager and was told that Bass Pro will not sell handgun ammo to Wisconsin residents because of WI right to carry!!! I'm appalled! I have no idea how this makes any sense!!!

    I would like you to know I will no longer be a customer of Bass Pro Shops, and I will be notifying everyone I can about this despicable policy.

    Considering the market your company appeals to, this may be the most idiotic policy I could possibly imagine.


    Here is the link to their email form: https://basspro.custhelp.com/app/ask
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2012
  16. blucoondawg

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    I just counted 58 locations listed on the Bass Pro website, only 3 of which are in Illinois, the other 55 are in CC states, I seriously doubt the upper management would be happy about something like this, did you happen to get the name of the manager who you dealt with at the store?
     
  17. BullseyePrecision

    BullseyePrecision New Member

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    Its because it was in illinois
     
  18. Vikingdad

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    Awhile ago we used to go into the several Big 5 Sporting Goods stores in my area for various reasons. In one of them the manager was always a pain, but not too much so. If we were buying ammo for my two (minor) boys (they pay for their own for the most part, especially the .22 LR as the shoot it a lot) we would walk up to the gun counter and this jerk would ask me what I was after, I would ask the boys what ammo they wanted and the guy wouldn't take his eyes off of me and say "I'm sorry sir, I was asking you what you wanted, not the boys. I cannot sell ammunition to minors." and insisted that I tell him what the boys wanted as though he couldn't hear them. OK, the ammo was cheap and all and the guy was a jerk. So I ask for the ammo, he gives me the boxes and walks us to the register, takes over for the girl who was working it and when the boys take out their cash I had to take it from them and hand it to the manager, and he insisted that I must carry it out of the store myself. Whatever.

    We had on another occasion gone in and another employee helped us, we looked at a couple of rifles (they do not sell handguns) with no problems. I would accept the gun, check it for safe/unloaded and hand it to the boys, they would check again, then they would ask for the ammo they wanted, pay for it and we went on our way. No big deal.

    At one point the boys went into the same store with mom, the jerk manager was at the gun counter and the boys wanted to look at some. He refused and said it was illegal for minors to handle guns for any reason. My wife said that she would take the gun and he told her that she could not give it to the boys. She told the guy that they are very well versed in firearms and firearms safety, and furthermore probably knew more about the guns he sold than he did (probably true, not that I would have said it but you go momma!) and that they had been allowed to handle the guns in the store in the past. The guy actually said "Tell me which one of my employees did that so I can properly discipline them." Anyhow they walked out without buying anything. When they got home I shot an email to corporate headquarters and got a call back that day from somebody there (I have all the names here somewhere) so I let loose on the guy (very politely to the gal on the phone) saying how somebody with that attitude did not belong in a sporting goods store let alone managing one.

    She assured me that the guy would be "retrained" or something. I am sure he was contacted and all but I haven't been back in there (this was last spring I think). Maybe we should go in and see if things have changed. I won't be buying anything though. Just having my boys handle the guns... if they'll let us.
     
  19. PrimePorkchop

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    edit:

    I just read your latest reply and sent them an e-mail with my opinion on the matter as well. Hopefully other members will follow suit and get this resolved. For anyone interested, here's a few phone numbers

    1-800-227-7776 - corporate customer service
    (847) 856-1229 - actual store #

    Ill be calling them as well as emailing. I hate freedom hating activists.

    Scott, would you be able to give us some details - manager name, date of visit, etc?

    This guy does not deserve a job that millions of unemployed FREEDOM LOVING Americans would love to have.
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2012
  20. Papa_Woody

    Papa_Woody New Member

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    I tried emailing them a letter but I can't seem to get the right address. Anyone have it? Their link did not work for me