Gun Shop GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by ArizonaLawman, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. ArizonaLawman

    ArizonaLawman New Member

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    I went to Sportsmans Warehouse this afternoon to pick up some primers. While I was there, I stopped at the gun counter to see what was to be seen...you know...because you kinda HAVE TO.

    As I was talking to the "kid" behind the counter, another "kid" came up and looked at a Taurus PT111 (subcompact 9mm) as he "axed" for a "Lil nine millimetuh wid' a clip."

    The kid behind the counter handed him the PT and G-Homey started holding it sideways and flagged me twice in a fast back and forth. Personally, I don't even like a rubber band gun pointed my way, so I flinched myself away and told him politely, yet firmly to "Be careful there partner, a feller don't like to see the hole in the end of those things pointing at him."

    "Awe man, it ain't be loaded!"

    "Well, it might AIN'T be, but they all IS be when you're handling them. I'd appreciate it if you'd keep it pointed at that nice big brick wall."

    Little turd flagged me again with an arrogant look in his eyes.

    The kid behind the counter said nothing, so I figured he was just as ignorant as this knucklehead with the Taurus.

    I didn't say another word, I couldn't, not at that moment so I turned and walked away....I had to or I was going to beat him to a bloody pulp right in front of everyone. I mean, literally, I was boiling mad...the kind of mad that will lead to NO good whatsoever. I mean the kind of mad, where I was thinking I would wait outside the door, then pummel him into sawdust. Self control obviously got the better of me, and I got into my truck and drove the extra 20 miles to Bass Pro to get primers.

    UGH. So...the message here is...I don't know...venting frustration, because I am betting I am preaching to the choir. But (expletive deleted by poster)...really? Really?

    Just be safe all...
     
  2. partdeux

    partdeux New Member

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    We stopped by a different range and while they don't sell firearms, they have an incredible collection of rentals. Before the clerk even removed one from the case, he made a point of stating where he wanted the business end pointed. Major fail WRT the shop.
     

  3. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member

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    If the dumb azz could not understand a verbal lesson, I would have introduced him to Mr. Concrete and filed Deadly Conduct charges against him. The store employee would have been out of a job for allowing such behavior.
     
  4. ArizonaLawman

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    I am retired, and no longer carry my badge unless I travel out of state with my HR218 permit, and there is no law against stupid. As such, I no longer have any legal authority to do anything other than give a firm verbal, which I did. IF I had done anything physical (as much as I really really really wanted to), I would have been looking at assault charges at a minimum, as I had reasonable belief that the pistol was, in fact unloaded, as I saw it removed from the display, it was chamber checked and slide locked back, by the kid that worked there. It would even be a fair chance that I could have caught an assault charge if I had simply taken the gun away from him. That would largely depend upon the store emplyee and the attitude of a responding officer. I was in Mesa, and probably would have been "okay" there...but if pressed by G-Homey, it still could have wound up in court. It still doesn't mitigate the fact that G-Homey was a jerk, and totally non-kosher in his handling of the pistol.

    At BEST, MAYBE it could have been a "misconduct with firearms" but even that would be a stretch, assuming an officer would have been close by enough to catch and respond to the call before he simply walked out. Then, taking it another inch...had anyone tried to detain him, it would have been "false imprisonment"....a whole can of worms opened, that frankly, I wouldn't deal with, because I know better...it was just one of those moments when an idiot was let out of the house without adult supervision. He made no verbal threat, so even a "threats and intimidation" charge would have been without foundation. As I said, there is (sadly) no law against stupid.

    My best option was to walk away, and I took that route....but still...GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
     
  5. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Given the circumstances, you are probably right....no recourse.

    Had I not witnessed the transfer of the firearm from the store Do Nothing to Mr. G. Homey, he (Mr. G) would have been staring down the muzzle of Mr. Colt 1911!! :mad:
     
  6. CA357

    CA357 New Member

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    I hadn't realized there were homeboy types in Mesa. You did the right thing, but stupid should be painful.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. ArizonaLawman

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    Trust me...they do. A lot of wannabe types, but there are some real deal old school bangers coming through. Mesa PD does a better than fair job of staying on top of it...but you still get them.

    This guy had WANNABE written all over him though. Any real so-called gangsta would eat this turd for breakfast. He was no more a real gangsta than I am. He was just one of those types who tries to dress the part and act the part.

    The real bangers seems to wind up in south Phoenix (28th Street and Broadway) come immediately to mind as a "ground zero". Central Mesa, and some parts of Tempe have little clusters here and there. The real banger also keep a lower profile than the wannabes tend to.

    But I completely agree...stupid should hurt (a lot).
     
  8. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Sorry you had to deal with that ALM.

    IMO you should write Sportsman's Warehouse. I guarantee you business is worth more than the risk of "ofendizing" Mr. G Homey.

    While shopping for my XD .45 years ago I stopped into the SW in Clackamas Oregon and for the first time ever, met a gun clerk who knew as much as I did about the gun I was interested in and better yet...the guy was NOT a gun store commando. Great experience.

    TACK
     
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  9. usmcprofessional

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    hell, i watched my buddy tackle a cleveland PD cop cause he flagged him, twice, while standing on the firing line. Mentor cops came and let him go, boy that made the cleveland cop mad as hell, which was totally worth it. anything to piss off CMPD
     
  10. ahole

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    Homeboyzzzzzz

    If you dont have enough of the retarded homy yo what up dawgs, I know we got a lot we would love to send to you in MESA. jackson ms is to full of them. It would be a grate place to live with out the chrome rim $500 cars, that dont know the difference between a high point and a kimber.
     
  11. willshoum

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    Mr. Majestic....

    If I don't know you and you point a gun at me in a store, even in jest, and the idiot says it ain't loaded.......You will have your arse in a sling and so will the idiot behind the counter......This is what i'd call a reason to open up a can of wuppppppp Arse..........:eek:
     
  12. ArizonaLawman

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    @ Tack

    Sportsmans is usually pretty good, most of the guys who work there are enthusiasts, or semi-retired types who have some years behind the trigger so I can't lay a blanket indictment on the whole store. The archery guy there is TOPS, he really knows his stuff. Real gun shops around here are pretty good too. I have a pretty good relationship with the owners, most of them know me from way back when before I retired, and as a competitive shooter and trainer.

    @ usmcpro

    When I was teaching at the academy, if a greenie ever broke muzzle discipline, after my "Sgt Bear's Gun Safety Speech" or violated MY safety rules on MY range thereby embarrassing MY profession, and proving themselves unworthy to be a student at MY academy (Yeah, I got this speech from a retired USMC Master Gunnery Sergeant), he would spend the entire week "policing" every bit of brass and debris on the range before he was released for evening meal, and of course he/she would earn an extra five mile run up "Killer Hill" in full uniform and duty gear. Of course, I would always follow them on their run (on an ATV with a nice cold 64oz soda chock full of ice). It's funny how effective negative reenforcement could be.

    @ ahole

    Negative on that, but thanks for the offer! I live 40 miles outside of Mesa...and I like it that way. The closest thing we have to a gang out here is the local Four H and FFA kids. But...I do have to drive in there a couple of times a week though...UGH. I can't wait til my wife retires from the department, and we can move up to our house in Show Low full time.
     
  13. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Whoa ...!!!
    I thought it was me who wrote this.
    Can there be two of us in the universe?
    :eek:
     
  14. ArizonaLawman

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    I don't know about that...I was born in 67. I think you have a few years on me.

    By the way, Thank you for your service and Welcome Home. My oldest brother was there in 69-70. He never made it back.
     
  15. CA357

    CA357 New Member

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    Born in '67? Geez, that's the year I entered the Air Force. :p
     
  16. JonM

    JonM Moderator

    i mighta called the cops and lodged a complaint goblin X threatened me in sportsman warehouse with a gun... let nature take its course from there. i pay a lot of taxes for police might as well get some use and amusement out of it.
     
  17. wmille01

    wmille01 New Member

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    wow I would have put that guy on the floor after that, people like that annoy me.
     
  18. moneymaker17

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    there should be a law, if you dress and act and talk like a peice of sh*T Thug gangster, wanna be. then you cant buy a gun,,..
    matter of fact before you start filling out the paper work you should have to say the ABC's that will really hurt them :D:D
     
  19. Gojubrian

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    A LOT of people buying guns do that. They may even sweep everyone in the shop. BUT, the fact that you pointed it out and he STILL dod it....smugly no doubt!! He shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun at all until he grows up and gains some respect for others and safety.
     
  20. ArizonaLawman

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    "Yeah man...uuuhhhhh...what come aftah B?"