I have a Speer manual that puts a 165gr hp 40 S&W max load at 6.3 grains of W231. There is a footnote that gives a police lite load of 5.8 grains. However, my Lyman, Lee and online sources have a max load of 5.4 grains of W231 for a 165gr.Hollow point. Does anyone load 40S&W with HP38 or Win 231??? What are your loads?